Cz 52 or sistema? - Page 2

Moon · 04-12-2006, 05:39 PM

So what's the going-rate on a Sistema ?

If what I'm reading is correct, I'd opt for a Sistema. CZ-52's are pieces of shit, I absolutely hate them. I've never had the misfortune of owning one, but I've fired 'em before. With that in mind, I would be much more inclined to purchase a Sistema.
Thanks for the great info, guys

Thylacine · 04-13-2006, 12:13 AM

CZ52 is a fine one. I am going to get another 3 (more) as soon as they become available.

RTO · 04-13-2006, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thylacine

CZ52 is a fine one. I am going to get another 3 (more) as soon as they become available.

Glad you came over, welcome to the

unker.

You are right, I have one and am going to buy one more (and a couple of firing pins too).

AKWARRIOR · 04-13-2006, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonShiner

So what's the going-rate on a Sistema ?

If what I'm reading is correct, I'd opt for a Sistema. CZ-52's are pieces of shit, I absolutely hate them. I've never had the misfortune of owning one, but I've fired 'em before. With that in mind, I would be much more inclined to purchase a Sistema.
Thanks for the great info, guys

They really are nice handguns,they belch fire and have a lot of power.The grip isnt the greatest but that can be improved.I dont know why you had such a bad experience with one.

SalBO · 04-13-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AKaTom

Salbo, One of the vendors said they couldn't check C&R licenses online.

Thats true......I hadnt realized it until I just went and checked.....sorry.......

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Moon · 04-13-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AKWARRIOR

I dont know why you had such a bad experience with one.

I've fired a few of these "jewels", and every single one had the look and feel of a complete piece of shit. You're right, the grip is hideous, but easily fixed. A few wraps of some ghetto-chrome (duct-tape) would do it a world of good, in both cosmetics and function. Just handling the silly thing made me thing "cheap, junk pistol. Great cantidate for a bridge gun." Bridge gun = homocide weapon, use once, and hurl off of a bridge.

Incidentally, I own a few junk-pistols too. So try not to confuse my position with being snobby.

If other people love them, that's fine, I'm not trying to start a mud-fight with my

homiez over a $4 pistol.

RetVet · 04-13-2006, 01:26 PM

I need one more CZ52. A 1952 dated copy. Hopefully another large batch will be imported and bump the prices back down a bit.

The Combloc stuff requires a taste of its own. I'm just partial to the Czech weaponry and wouldn't mind picking up another CZ50 and 70 as well (unless I can snag a CZ38 or CZ45 instead).

AKWARRIOR · 04-13-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonShiner

I've fired a few of these "jewels", and every single one had the look and feel of a complete piece of shit. You're right, the grip is hideous, but easily fixed. A few wraps of some ghetto-chrome (duct-tape) would do it a world of good, in both cosmetics and function. Just handling the silly thing made me thing "cheap, junk pistol. Great cantidate for a bridge gun." Bridge gun = homocide weapon, use once, and hurl off of a bridge.

Incidentally, I own a few junk-pistols too. So try not to confuse my position with being snobby.

If other people love them, that's fine, I'm not trying to start a mud-fight with my

homiez over a $4 pistol.

No I just thought it was funny is all.I wouldnt call them junk they pack a lot of power(Provided you get some HP for them) and they are accurate.Its not the first gun Id turn to for self protection but it would work.

RetVet I think I saw some CZ70's over at SOG the other day.

RetVet · 04-13-2006, 06:24 PM

I believe they have both 50's and 70's. I just ordered a Romak-3 though, so my cup is going to be empty for a while.

AKWARRIOR · 04-13-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RetVet

I just ordered a Romak-3 though, so my cup is going to be empty for a while.

Please post a report on it when you get it.Ive heard a mixed bag about the quality.

HorseSoldier176 · 04-14-2006, 01:44 AM

The first Combloc handgun I ever got was a 1935 TT-33. It was a WWII bring back, and it looks like it. All the Soviet cartouches are intact, and no import marks. I like the TT-33, for the same reason I like the CZ-52's. They belch that fire, and at dusk that is so cool. In a pinch, yes it could be deadly, but not my first choice for self defense, not even in the top ten, but again, in a pinch... I really like the Makarov also, small, light, and almost as powerful as a 9 mmP. Given my choice, I will always go with .45ACP for self defense, but sometimes you have to improvise, adapt, and overcome.

SA58 · 04-14-2006, 04:14 PM

I have 2 Sistema's and 3 CZ52's. If I could only pick one, I'd get the Sistema. Even when they were first here they didn't last all that long and the prices on them climbed instantly. Most of the barrels were rusty, and some were just plain beat to hell... but that's one of the great things about a 1911A1, you can get another and just drop it in (along with a whole myriad of other aftermarket parts) you can keep that sucker running forever and ever. Its true that these were made on Colt machiner under Colt supervision... aside from a Hartford it's about as close to an actual Colt 1911A1 as you'll get without buying one. Ergonomics are better than the CZ52 as well.

CZ52's... well, what do you really want for a $100 gun. I bought 3 in all... came with brand new holsters, extra mag and cleaning rod.. all in excellent condition (one blue/re-arsenaled, one grey park, one black park) It's a very powerfull round, strong, and pretty accurate too.. more so than my Sistemas. Trigger pull is heavy though, and the ergonomics aren't there.. but again, what do you want for a $100 combloc pistol? Anyway... I think they will still be around for awhile, so you're more likely to get one of those later. The Sistemas are few and far between. Just my opinion.

04-13-2006, 01:26 PM	#22
RetVet Statistical Error Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Homeless Posts: 43,709	I need one more CZ52. A 1952 dated copy. Hopefully another large batch will be imported and bump the prices back down a bit. The Combloc stuff requires a taste of its own. I'm just partial to the Czech weaponry and wouldn't mind picking up another CZ50 and 70 as well (unless I can snag a CZ38 or CZ45 instead). __________________ ^^^ For entertainment purposes. Use only as directed. ^^^ III

04-12-2006, 05:39 PM	#16
Moon IncogNegro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,825	So what's the going-rate on a Sistema ? If what I'm reading is correct, I'd opt for a Sistema. CZ-52's are pieces of shit, I absolutely hate them. I've never had the misfortune of owning one, but I've fired 'em before. With that in mind, I would be much more inclined to purchase a Sistema. Thanks for the great info, guys

04-13-2006, 12:13 AM	#17
Thylacine Molon Labe Y'All Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 141	CZ52 is a fine one. I am going to get another 3 (more) as soon as they become available.

04-13-2006, 06:24 PM	#24
RetVet Statistical Error Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Homeless Posts: 43,709	I believe they have both 50's and 70's. I just ordered a Romak-3 though, so my cup is going to be empty for a while.

04-14-2006, 01:44 AM	#26
HorseSoldier176 Retired Soldier Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Central PA Posts: 14,148	The first Combloc handgun I ever got was a 1935 TT-33. It was a WWII bring back, and it looks like it. All the Soviet cartouches are intact, and no import marks. I like the TT-33, for the same reason I like the CZ-52's. They belch that fire, and at dusk that is so cool. In a pinch, yes it could be deadly, but not my first choice for self defense, not even in the top ten, but again, in a pinch... I really like the Makarov also, small, light, and almost as powerful as a 9 mmP. Given my choice, I will always go with .45ACP for self defense, but sometimes you have to improvise, adapt, and overcome.

04-14-2006, 04:14 PM	#27
SA58 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Communist Ill-annoys Posts: 46	I have 2 Sistema's and 3 CZ52's. If I could only pick one, I'd get the Sistema. Even when they were first here they didn't last all that long and the prices on them climbed instantly. Most of the barrels were rusty, and some were just plain beat to hell... but that's one of the great things about a 1911A1, you can get another and just drop it in (along with a whole myriad of other aftermarket parts) you can keep that sucker running forever and ever. Its true that these were made on Colt machiner under Colt supervision... aside from a Hartford it's about as close to an actual Colt 1911A1 as you'll get without buying one. Ergonomics are better than the CZ52 as well. CZ52's... well, what do you really want for a $100 gun. I bought 3 in all... came with brand new holsters, extra mag and cleaning rod.. all in excellent condition (one blue/re-arsenaled, one grey park, one black park) It's a very powerfull round, strong, and pretty accurate too.. more so than my Sistemas. Trigger pull is heavy though, and the ergonomics aren't there.. but again, what do you want for a $100 combloc pistol? Anyway... I think they will still be around for awhile, so you're more likely to get one of those later. The Sistemas are few and far between. Just my opinion.