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06-09-2009, 01:16 PM | #1 |
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Ramshot Powder
Have a lead on some Ramshot Powder I can get at a reasonable price...either True Blue, Zip or Silhouette. Anybody had good results loading 9mm./.40/.45 with any of these powders?
I have heard that True Blue is the old Winchester WAP powder with flash suppressor added. Also was told that True Blue burns cleaner than Win. 231 (which in my limited experience wouldn't be hard to do).
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06-10-2009, 01:37 PM | #2 |
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Peeweester I was hopeing someone could answer you. I have no expierance what so ever with Ramshot powder. Sorry.
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Same here Rew, never heard of it.
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I've also never even heard of those powders. I pretty much stick with IMR or Alliant powders.
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Same here, never heard of it.
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06-23-2009, 02:38 PM | #6 |
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Well, I've gotten the Ramshot True Blue powder in. It's made by Western Powder, or at least distributed by them, in Montana. They are apparently the same folks that make/market Montana Xtreme gun cleaning products.
I literally just got the powder yesterday, so I haven't even decided what caliber I'm going to load with it yet, though from the load sheet they sent, it looks mighty good in .40 S&W. A little goes a long way, and it develops one of the highest velocities of any powder with both 165 gr. and 180 gr. bullets. I hope I don't have trouble with my powder thrower...this stuff is super small. I also will have to wait on my primer order to get in, whenever that will be. I don't have much loading experience so far, but will give my opinion based upon Alliant powders and a couple of Hodgdon powders I have used so far. |
06-23-2009, 04:21 PM | #7 |
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I don't know anything about the powder but my sierra book lists both the true blue and Silhouette at 1200 Fps for their 115 gr HP. the Zip is listed at 1150. those are all at maximum load. it also lists all three for the 40 S&W.
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06-23-2009, 04:56 PM | #8 |
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Heres a burn rate chart for ya.
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Powder Burn Rates[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]1 Norma R1[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]2 Vihtavuori N310 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]3 Hodgdon Titewad[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]4 Accurate Arms Nitro 100 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]5 Hercules/Alliant Bullseye [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]6 Accurate Arms Solo 1000 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]7 Hodgdon Titegroup[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]8 Accurate Arms No. 2 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]9 Alliant American Select [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]10 Hercules/Alliant Red Dot [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]11 Hodgdon Clays [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]12 Vihtavuori N320 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]13 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Super Target[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]14 Ramshot Competition [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]15 Hodgdon HP38 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]16 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] 231 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]17 Ramshot Zip [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]18 IMR Hi-Skor@ 700X [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]19 Hercules/Alliant Green Dot [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]20 Hodgdon International Clays[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]21 Vihtavuori N330 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]22 IMR PB [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]23 Accurate Arms No. 5 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]24 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Super Lite [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]25 Hercules/Alliant Unique [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]26 Hodgdon Universal Clays [/FONT] [FONT=Arial](Universal Clays should not be confused [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]with Hodgdon’s Clays, or International Clays. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]These three powders are different and should[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]not be interchanged.)[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]27 Alliant Power Pistol [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]28 IMR SR 7625 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]29 Hodgdon HS-6 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]30 Ramshot Silhoutte [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]31 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Action Pistol [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]32 Vihtavuori N340 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]33 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] 540 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]34 Hercules/Alliant Herco [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]35 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Super Field [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]36 IMR SR 4756 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]37 Vihtavuori 3N37[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]38 IMR AHi-Skor@ 800X[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]39 Accurate Arms No. 7 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]40 Hodgdon Longshot [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]41 Ramshot True Blue [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]42 Vihtavuori N350 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]43 Vihtavuori 3N38 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]44 Hodgdon HS-7 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]45 Hercules/Alliant Blue Dot [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]46 Vihtavouri N105 Super Magnum[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]47 Accurate Arms No. 9 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]48 Ramshot Enforcer[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]49 Hercules/Alliant 2400 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]50 Vihtavuori N110 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]51 Hodgdon Lil’Gun[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]52 Norma R123 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]53 Hodgdon H110 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]54 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] 296 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]55 IMR SR 4759 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]56 Vihtavuori N120 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]57 IMR 4227 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]58 Accurate Arms XMR-5744[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]59 Hodgdon H4227 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]60 Vihtavuori N130 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]61 Accurate Arms 1680 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]62 Norma 200 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]63 Vihtavuori N133 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]64 Hodgdon H4198 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]65 IMR 4198 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]66 Accurate Arms XMR-2015 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]67 Hercules/Alliant Reloder 7 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]68 IMR 3031 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]69 Hodgdon Benchmark [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]70 Norma 201 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]71 Hodgdon H322 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]72 Ramshot X-Terminator [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]73 Accurate Arms 2230 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]74 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] 748 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]75 Hodgdon Ball C(2) [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]76 Accurate Arms 2460 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]77 Hodgdon H335[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]78 Ramshot TAC [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]79 Hodgdon H4895 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]80 Accurate Arms XMR-2495 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]81 Hercules/Alliant Reloder 12 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]82 IMR 4895[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]83 Vihtavuori N135 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]84 Hodgdon Varget [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]85 IMR 4064 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]86 Accurate Arms XMR-4064 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]87 Accurate Arms 2520 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]88 IMR 4320 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]89 Norma 202 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]90 Vihtavuori N140 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]91 Vihtavuori N540 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]92 Accurate Arms 2700 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]93 Ramshot BigGame [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]94 Hercules/Alliant Reloder 15 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]95 Hodgdon H380 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]96 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] 760 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]97 Hodgdon H414 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]98 Vihtavuori N150 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]99 Vihtavuori N550 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]100 Accurate Arms XMR-4350 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]101 IMR 4350[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]102 Hodgdon H4350 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]103 Hodgdon H4350 Extreme [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]104 Norma 204 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]105 Hercules/Alliant Reloder 19 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]106 Vihtavuori N160 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]107 Vihtavuori N560 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]108 IMR 4831 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]109 Accurate Arms XMR-3100[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]110 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Magnum Rifle [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]111 Hodgdon H4831SC [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]112 Hodgdon H4831* [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]113 Norma MRP [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]114 Hodgdon H450 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]115 Accurate Arms MagPro [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]116 Vihtavuori N165 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]117 Hercules/Alliant Reloder 22 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]118 [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Winchester[/FONT][FONT=Arial] WXR [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]119 IMR 7828 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]120 Accurate Arms 8700 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]121 Hodgdon H1000 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]122 Ramshot Magnum (formerly BigBoy)[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]123 Alliant Reloader 25 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]124 Hodgdon Retumbo [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]125 Hodgdon H870 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]126 Vihtavuori N170 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]127 Vihtavouri 24N41[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]128 Hodgdon 50 BMG [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]129 Vihtavuori 20N29 [/FONT] |
07-12-2009, 06:33 PM | #9 |
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Well, I have loaded both 9mm. and .45 with the Ramshot True Blue powder. It is a slower burning powder, not quite like Blue Dot by Alliant, but close. What I do like about the powder is that it meters very consistently, and it's dense loading characteristics lend itself to work well with max loads and heavy bullets. What is not so good (for me at least) is that the size of the granules of powder are so small, that it leaks out of my powder measure; not bad enough that it makes a big mess, but after a few hundred rounds, you have to dust off the loader and bench. In maximum loads, it nearly tops the velocity charts in both 9mm. and .45 for bullet weights I carry 124 gr. and 230 gr. respectively. It doesn't seem to burn as dirty as some of the Alliant powders I have used, but other than a few loadings with Hodgdon, I don't have anything else to compare it to. I'm happy with it so far, so if you see some around, you might give it a try.
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08-08-2009, 11:18 PM | #12 |
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I use it in my .40 Taraus. I loaded True Blue w/ 6 grains and really like it. I did buy Silhouette, Zip, And Enforcer, but haven't had a chance to load with them yet.
Ramshot 4lbs. http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...34%20%4C%42%53 8lbs http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...38%20%4C%42%53 Wideners is startting to get some stock in. http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278|283|473 Check out their load guide. They update it occasionally, so check them often. http://www.ramshot.com/powders/ |
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