Happy Nagasaki Liquidation Day!

Angry White Trash · 08-09-2020, 12:09 AM

Let us celebrate the 75th anniversary of the liquidation of Nagasaki, Japan August 9th, 1945.

After the 1st nuke bombing of Hiroshima 3 days earlier, the Japanese were showing absolutely no intention to surrender... they were not taking the Americans seriously enough and President Truman made the historical decision to flatten another strategic Japanese city.

The Primary target for the second bombing was Kokura, Japan on August 9th, 1945. In the early morning hours on Tinian Island ground crews were making all the final preparations for the day's mission. The world's first Plutonium bomb 'Fat Man' had been carefully placed in the bombay of the B-29 'Bockscar'. It was more powerful than the uranium 'Little Boy' bomb. Group Commander Paul Tibbets (PIC of Enola Gay) selected Charles Sweeney to fly the second 12+ hour mission.

An hour before takeoff the flight engineer informed the crew that one of Bockscar's fuel transfer pumps wasn't working and requested time to replace it. This particular fuel pump was responsible for pumping 640 gallons of fuel carried in a reserve tank. Replacing the pump would take hours and moving Fat Man to another aircraft would be extremely dangerous because it was already armed and the bomb was live. Tibbets and Sweeney therefore elected to have Bockscar continue the mission without repairing the pump and without draining the reserve fuel tank. Those 640 gallons were going for a ride to Japan & back and represented a 4,032lb weight penalty. This became a critical factor much later in the mission.

Unlike the first Atomic Bomb strike 3 days previous, the second mission was riddled with problems. Bockscar left Tinian Island at 3:49AM and the mission profile called for a rendezvous point over Iwo Jima but foul weather forced them to fly lower than normal and rendezvous over Yakushima Island. There they would link up with two other B-29's 'The Great Artiste' and 'The Big Stink' and fly on to Kokura. The Big stink never showed up and after orbiting 45 minutes longer than planned Bockscar struck out to the primary target of Kokura.

The weather observation planes, 'Enola Gay' and 'Laggin' Dragon' reported good bombing conditions over Kokura and the secondary target of Nagasaki. As Bockscar approached Kokura late from the delayed rendezvous ... smoke from a nearby firebomb raid began to shroud 70% of the city. Three separate bomb runs were made to no avail. The bombadier couldn't get a proper view of the target and anti aircraft fire became intense as well as Japanese radio chatter indicating an effort to send fighters to intercept them. Also, their fuel was starting to become critical as they toiled fruitlessly over Kokura... the decision was made to reduce power and divert to Nagasaki.

Things were no better 20 minutes later when they found Nagasaki covered by dense clouds. The decision was made to bomb using radar but in the last few moments of the bomb run the bombadier saw an opening in the clouds and toggled Fat Man visually at 10:58am... 43 seconds later the good folks of Nagasaki were bathed in American made canned sunshine. It exploded with a blast yield equivalent to 21 kilotons of TNT at an altitude of 1,650 feet approximately 1.5 miles northwest of the planned aiming point, resulting in the destruction of 44% of the city.

The failure to drop Fat Man at the precise bomb aim point caused the atomic blast to be confined to the Urakami Valley. As a consequence, a major portion of the city was protected by the intervening hills, but even so, the bomb was dropped over the city's industrial valley midway between the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works in the south and the Mitsubishi-Urakami Ordnance Works in the north. An estimated 35,000 people were killed and 60,000 injured during the bombing at Nagasaki.

Now the difficult part... get Bockscar home without being shot down or running out of fuel. Do to all the delays, diversions and the added weight penalty, Bockscar did not have enough fuel to land at the emergency field at Iwo Jima and had to fly to Okinawa. On short final to Yontan Airfield, Bockscar lost # 2 engine to fuel starvation and a second engine while landing. After narrowly missing a group of parked B-24's, Bockscar's remaining two engines died while taxiing off the runway. Bockscar would need to be towed off the runway.

Unlike Enola Gay's 'milk run' mission 3 days before, the second mission was a cornucopia of near disasters. Despite all the drama, the mission was a huge success and the slant's finally got their minds right and accepted Truman's unconditional surrender... ending WWII once and for all.

I like a happy ending!

44044 · 08-09-2020, 12:50 AM

The A bombs saved countless American lives...

A job well done

Diesel 88888888 · 08-09-2020, 01:47 AM

4thIDvet · 08-09-2020, 02:28 AM

Great story damn good men.

I wonder if we had another canned sunshine surprise for the slope heads?
If we did not and they found that out they might have said come and get us? U.S. Army troops from Europe were packing up and getting ready to head over to kick some ass but the surrender ended that thank God.

Bluntforce · 08-09-2020, 02:56 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3QXK2iUJn0

You get a fuckied zipperhead.

ah so not sorry

4thIDvet · 08-09-2020, 03:32 AM

Canned sunshine was freaking great but cooking them alive was even way better..

Deadly WWII firebombings of Japanese cities largely ignored

TOKYO — It was not Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but in many ways, including lives lost, it was just as horrific.

105,400 confirmed dead, many interred in common graves in Tokyo alone.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/milita...nored/2220606/

Torture our prisoners rape women kill children. You savage frigging animals burn baby burn.
Their homes were made of paper and bamboo. Perfect for the new invention to cook the mother friggers alive. NAPALM.

Angry White Trash · 08-09-2020, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thIDvet

Canned sunshine was freaking great but cooking them alive was even way better..

Deadly WWII firebombings of Japanese cities largely ignored

TOKYO — It was not Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but in many ways, including lives lost, it was just as horrific.

105,400 confirmed dead, many interred in common graves in Tokyo alone.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/milita...nored/2220606/

Torture our prisoners rape women kill children. You savage frigging animals burn baby burn.
Their homes were made of paper and bamboo. Perfect for the new invention to cook the mother friggers alive. NAPALM.

Yes, the fire bombings took an even greater toll than the 2 nukes on the gooks. Many more dead and many more square miles reduced to smoldering ash... and nary a word said about it.

Those B-29's certainly delivered the goods.

44044 · 08-09-2020, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry White Trash

Yes, the fire bombings took an even greater toll than the 2 nukes on the gooks. Many more dead and many more square miles reduced to smoldering ash... and nary a word said about it.

Those B-29's certainly delivered the goods.

Two nukes on the gooks...

The best thing that HST ever did

Angry White Trash · 08-09-2020, 09:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 44044

Two nukes on the gooks...

The best thing that HST ever did

He'd be considered a hateful right wing rassiss

bastard in 2020.

44044 · 08-09-2020, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry White Trash

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He'd be considered a hateful right wing rassiss

bastard in 2020.

He was a failure in business

So he went into politics

4thIDvet · 08-09-2020, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry White Trash

Yes, the fire bombings took an even greater toll than the 2 nukes on the gooks. Many more dead and many more square miles reduced to smoldering ash... and nary a word said about it.

Those B-29's certainly delivered the goods.

Bit back I talked at the V.A. hospital to a WWII pilot on a B-29 who was doing the firebombing. He said he smiled every time the bombardier hit the button.

Sheepdawg · 08-09-2020, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thIDvet

Great story damn good men.

I wonder if we had another canned sunshine surprise for the slope heads?
If we did not and they found that out they might have said come and get us? U.S. Army troops from Europe were packing up and getting ready to head over to kick some ass but the surrender ended that thank God.

This story says that on August 19 Tokyo would have been lit up.

https://airminded.org/2009/08/19/the...9-august-1945/

thefundamentalist · 08-09-2020, 11:17 AM

Mecca should also be shown the light - but they're bud-buds with the right political dynasty so they get a pass.

4thIDvet · 08-09-2020, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheepdawg

This story says that on August 19 Tokyo would have been lit up.

https://airminded.org/2009/08/19/the...9-august-1945/

Interesting thank you Sheepdawg.

Angry White Trash · 08-09-2020, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheepdawg

This story says that on August 19 Tokyo would have been lit up.

https://airminded.org/2009/08/19/the...9-august-1945/

Oh... what could have been.

08-09-2020, 12:09 AM	#1
Angry White Trash slug Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ice Station Zebra Posts: 15,400	Happy Nagasaki Liquidation Day! Let us celebrate the 75th anniversary of the liquidation of Nagasaki, Japan August 9th, 1945. After the 1st nuke bombing of Hiroshima 3 days earlier, the Japanese were showing absolutely no intention to surrender... they were not taking the Americans seriously enough and President Truman made the historical decision to flatten another strategic Japanese city. The Primary target for the second bombing was Kokura, Japan on August 9th, 1945. In the early morning hours on Tinian Island ground crews were making all the final preparations for the day's mission. The world's first Plutonium bomb 'Fat Man' had been carefully placed in the bombay of the B-29 'Bockscar'. It was more powerful than the uranium 'Little Boy' bomb. Group Commander Paul Tibbets (PIC of Enola Gay) selected Charles Sweeney to fly the second 12+ hour mission. An hour before takeoff the flight engineer informed the crew that one of Bockscar's fuel transfer pumps wasn't working and requested time to replace it. This particular fuel pump was responsible for pumping 640 gallons of fuel carried in a reserve tank. Replacing the pump would take hours and moving Fat Man to another aircraft would be extremely dangerous because it was already armed and the bomb was live. Tibbets and Sweeney therefore elected to have Bockscar continue the mission without repairing the pump and without draining the reserve fuel tank. Those 640 gallons were going for a ride to Japan & back and represented a 4,032lb weight penalty. This became a critical factor much later in the mission. Unlike the first Atomic Bomb strike 3 days previous, the second mission was riddled with problems. Bockscar left Tinian Island at 3:49AM and the mission profile called for a rendezvous point over Iwo Jima but foul weather forced them to fly lower than normal and rendezvous over Yakushima Island. There they would link up with two other B-29's 'The Great Artiste' and 'The Big Stink' and fly on to Kokura. The Big stink never showed up and after orbiting 45 minutes longer than planned Bockscar struck out to the primary target of Kokura. The weather observation planes, 'Enola Gay' and 'Laggin' Dragon' reported good bombing conditions over Kokura and the secondary target of Nagasaki. As Bockscar approached Kokura late from the delayed rendezvous ... smoke from a nearby firebomb raid began to shroud 70% of the city. Three separate bomb runs were made to no avail. The bombadier couldn't get a proper view of the target and anti aircraft fire became intense as well as Japanese radio chatter indicating an effort to send fighters to intercept them. Also, their fuel was starting to become critical as they toiled fruitlessly over Kokura... the decision was made to reduce power and divert to Nagasaki. Things were no better 20 minutes later when they found Nagasaki covered by dense clouds. The decision was made to bomb using radar but in the last few moments of the bomb run the bombadier saw an opening in the clouds and toggled Fat Man visually at 10:58am... 43 seconds later the good folks of Nagasaki were bathed in American made canned sunshine. It exploded with a blast yield equivalent to 21 kilotons of TNT at an altitude of 1,650 feet approximately 1.5 miles northwest of the planned aiming point, resulting in the destruction of 44% of the city. The failure to drop Fat Man at the precise bomb aim point caused the atomic blast to be confined to the Urakami Valley. As a consequence, a major portion of the city was protected by the intervening hills, but even so, the bomb was dropped over the city's industrial valley midway between the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works in the south and the Mitsubishi-Urakami Ordnance Works in the north. An estimated 35,000 people were killed and 60,000 injured during the bombing at Nagasaki. Now the difficult part... get Bockscar home without being shot down or running out of fuel. Do to all the delays, diversions and the added weight penalty, Bockscar did not have enough fuel to land at the emergency field at Iwo Jima and had to fly to Okinawa. On short final to Yontan Airfield, Bockscar lost # 2 engine to fuel starvation and a second engine while landing. After narrowly missing a group of parked B-24's, Bockscar's remaining two engines died while taxiing off the runway. Bockscar would need to be towed off the runway. Unlike Enola Gay's 'milk run' mission 3 days before, the second mission was a cornucopia of near disasters. Despite all the drama, the mission was a huge success and the slant's finally got their minds right and accepted Truman's unconditional surrender... ending WWII once and for all. I like a happy ending!

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4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 48,398	Great story damn good men. I wonder if we had another canned sunshine surprise for the slope heads? If we did not and they found that out they might have said come and get us? U.S. Army troops from Europe were packing up and getting ready to head over to kick some ass but the surrender ended that thank God. __________________ God Bless Americas Veterans. All who are serving and have served.

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08-09-2020, 12:50 AM	#2
44044 slug Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: swampeastmissouri Posts: 50,919	The A bombs saved countless American lives... A job well done

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4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 48,398	Canned sunshine was freaking great but cooking them alive was even way better.. Deadly WWII firebombings of Japanese cities largely ignored TOKYO — It was not Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but in many ways, including lives lost, it was just as horrific. 105,400 confirmed dead, many interred in common graves in Tokyo alone. https://www.tampabay.com/news/milita...nored/2220606/ Torture our prisoners rape women kill children. You savage frigging animals burn baby burn. Their homes were made of paper and bamboo. Perfect for the new invention to cook the mother friggers alive. NAPALM.

08-09-2020, 11:17 AM	#13
thefundamentalist Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,887	Mecca should also be shown the light - but they're bud-buds with the right political dynasty so they get a pass.