A really dumb AK fcg question..

Bulletboy · 05-15-2007, 07:59 PM

I have never before used the pivot pin retainer that comes with the kit. I always just buy the shepherds crook retainers from DPH. Well I was doing some final fitting last night, and I was out of those. Thats when I realized I dont even know how to use the other one. It doesnt look much different, except for the wound spring on one end. Is the safety selector pin supposed to go through that(or maybe the trigger pin, I dont have it in front of me right now)? I hate when I feel like I should really already know this, and for some reason I dont.. Makes me feel like I'm back in math class

Cephus · 05-15-2007, 08:10 PM

If your're talking about the wound spring end on the original FCG ,just cut the spring off or use some e-clips from ace the size is 7/32 they work well !!

75_stingray · 05-15-2007, 08:21 PM

Here's a nice site that was set up by Linx w/lots of info and pics. This should help you out! LINK

flopshot · 05-15-2007, 08:34 PM

i bought one of the retainers from a well known supplier and just copied them.
the old rear reciever stubs work well for stock material. or you can just grab some standard stock and heat treat it.

NCshooter26 · 05-15-2007, 10:42 PM

I use 7/32 e-clips like Cephus suggested. I use two per axis pin, and they don't go anywhere! However, it is a bitch getting them off, if you need to remove the FCG. If you do go that route, look for them at an industrial fastener supplier, instead of Lowes or Home Depot. I used to get them at Lowes for about $1.50 for two, then I discovered a fastener supplier within about two miles from my house that sells them for $5 per 100.

Preacher · 05-15-2007, 10:59 PM

There's nothing wrong with the ones from Lowes, they're just expensive as all get out!!!

Cephus · 05-15-2007, 11:00 PM

NC ---- Ace sells them for .07 ea. I get about a dozen at a time for under a buck !!!!

Bulletboy · 05-16-2007, 03:07 PM

Thx guys, all of that helped out!

4thIDvet · 06-12-2007, 10:25 AM

I came across this one good info.

On Gunco.net Firearm Library. Hit shepards hook. 7.62x39 has a great tutorial explaining some other proper ways to use the shepards hook.

Bulletboy · 06-12-2007, 11:23 AM

Thx 4th, thats a good one. The ones I usually use are what they call the "chinese L hook" on there. When I posted this thread, it was because I didnt have any left and I needed one. Turns out that the piece I was trying to describe originally was the FA sear spring or something. Since I've never built an FA, or even fired one, I had no idea. Thought it was a retaining spring of some sort

05-15-2007, 07:59 PM	#1
Bulletboy Troubleshooter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wa. Posts: 3,369	A really dumb AK fcg question.. I have never before used the pivot pin retainer that comes with the kit. I always just buy the shepherds crook retainers from DPH. Well I was doing some final fitting last night, and I was out of those. Thats when I realized I dont even know how to use the other one. It doesnt look much different, except for the wound spring on one end. Is the safety selector pin supposed to go through that(or maybe the trigger pin, I dont have it in front of me right now)? I hate when I feel like I should really already know this, and for some reason I dont.. Makes me feel like I'm back in math class __________________ Veritas et Aequitas WWHBD? (What Would Henry Bowman Do?)

05-15-2007, 08:10 PM	#2
Cephus The OLD COOT one and only Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glovers Gap WV Posts: 10,277	If your're talking about the wound spring end on the original FCG ,just cut the spring off or use some e-clips from ace the size is 7/32 they work well !! __________________ FREEDOM ONLY ACCEPTS ONE PRICE AND THAT IS BLOOD

05-15-2007, 08:21 PM	#3
75_stingray 388ci Bored & Stroked SB Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Charleston SC. Posts: 2,980	Here's a nice site that was set up by Linx w/lots of info and pics. This should help you out! LINK __________________ Always consider potential Allies. Never dismiss that they may be the enemy until proven otherwise. Be careful how you hold both; You could turn one into the other. (63DH8) There will always be a large group of people that will be preyed upon, consumed by predators just like in a school of fish. Some fish don't venture out into the deep water, others do so only when they've developed big teeth, but most just swim along looking at how blue the water is.(GN Member)

05-15-2007, 10:42 PM	#5
NCshooter26 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NC Posts: 2,672	I use 7/32 e-clips like Cephus suggested. I use two per axis pin, and they don't go anywhere! However, it is a bitch getting them off, if you need to remove the FCG. If you do go that route, look for them at an industrial fastener supplier, instead of Lowes or Home Depot. I used to get them at Lowes for about $1.50 for two, then I discovered a fastener supplier within about two miles from my house that sells them for $5 per 100. __________________ "I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy."

05-15-2007, 10:59 PM	#6
Preacher Chaplain/Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 11,321	There's nothing wrong with the ones from Lowes, they're just expensive as all get out!!! __________________ You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done. Ronald Reagan - 1964 ------------------------------------- Bunker Member #4.

05-15-2007, 08:34 PM	#4
flopshot Constitutional bigot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,812	i bought one of the retainers from a well known supplier and just copied them. the old rear reciever stubs work well for stock material. or you can just grab some standard stock and heat treat it.

05-15-2007, 11:00 PM	#7
Cephus The OLD COOT one and only Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glovers Gap WV Posts: 10,277	NC ---- Ace sells them for .07 ea. I get about a dozen at a time for under a buck !!!!

05-16-2007, 03:07 PM	#8
Bulletboy Troubleshooter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wa. Posts: 3,369	Thx guys, all of that helped out!

06-12-2007, 10:25 AM	#9
4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 48,519	Shepards hook I came across this one good info. On Gunco.net Firearm Library. Hit shepards hook. 7.62x39 has a great tutorial explaining some other proper ways to use the shepards hook.

06-12-2007, 11:23 AM	#10
Bulletboy Troubleshooter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wa. Posts: 3,369	Thx 4th, thats a good one. The ones I usually use are what they call the "chinese L hook" on there. When I posted this thread, it was because I didnt have any left and I needed one. Turns out that the piece I was trying to describe originally was the FA sear spring or something. Since I've never built an FA, or even fired one, I had no idea. Thought it was a retaining spring of some sort