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Old 06-18-2018, 05:15 PM   #16
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In 1903 the Wright Brothers flew what...about a hundred ft. in what looks like an elaborate box kite with a rude internal combustion engine?

In 1969...we put Americans on the Moon. It is nearly the same time gap between 1903...and 1969 as it is from 1969 till the present time.

Where in the fuck are the USAF marked, FTL, Starships ??????


To consider that we are "alone" in the Milky Way Galaxy... is absurd. The numbers just do not support it. Almost every week astronomers are discovering planets orbiting far away star systems with planets in the "Goldilocks zone."

Just because space aliens are not tossing used rubbers and empty beer cans or bald tires out the windows of their starcraft to ltter the place up and so we can find them and go GA-GA over their refuse....does not mean they do not come here to look at the munkeys...

I laugh at all that "Ancient Astronaut" . Those fuzzheaded faggots assume that humans only got "smart/crafty" or "inventive" in the last 200 years. News flash! The Egyptians built the pyramids a couple thousand years ago...not space aliens.
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AFAIK ...there have been around six mass extinctions here on the third rock out.
But...but...you have told me not everything died besides who's to say it didn't happen someplace else. Evidently getting hit by another rock is a very common occurrence in the universe, just like supernovas or black holes.

I have no interest in black holes by the way, but novas...if they are young and pretty, never underestimate one, they will take you to the next level.....

Thanatos, sometimes I wonder the same crap. Well science has a way to know according to colors and temperature changes, we know when a star in in heat

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All right Dink, I do not dispute the fact tat we may not be alone, but why do we always depict them as being more advanced than we are? That's my problem.
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I expect that it would take some pretty advanced tech to travel zillions of light years in the vacuum of interstellar space... from there...to here. A bit far to fly a C47...or drive a Volkswagen. So yes...extraterrestrials would have to be extremely more advanced scientifically and technologically than we are...just to come here at all... and take a piss off their back porch. Even if they decided not to exterminate us like a bunch of termites.

I would imagine that it goes without saying...that the "Grays" are not going to travel here...come down to the dirt...and have our best interests in mind.

Hell THEY are prob here already and have been... and we simply do not recognize what is going on. Their tech is prob so advanced we would see it as magic.
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But...but...you have told me not everything died besides who's to say it didn't happen someplace else. Evidently getting hit by another rock is a very common occurrence in the universe, just like supernovas or black holes.

I have no interest in black holes by the way, but novas...if they are young and pretty, never underestimate one, they will take you to the next level.....

Thanatos, sometimes I wonder the same crap. Well science has a way to know according to colors and temperature changes, we know when a star in in heat

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EVERYTHING did not die off during Earth's multiple mass extinctions...whatever can and did adapt to a CHANGED environment did. The most adaptable lived. Other organisms died off.

What is the planetary norm for star systems we have not even discovered yet...is of course unknown. Perhaps those star systems do not have comets or asteroids zooming around...or their suns are different or perhaps the aliens there ...all came here to live. ?
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:27 PM   #21
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EVERYTHING did not die off during Earth's multiple mass extinctions...whatever can and did adapt to a CHANGED environment did. The most adaptable lived. Other organisms died off.

What is the planetary norm for star systems we have not even discovered yet...is of course unknown. Perhaps those star systems do not have comets or asteroids zooming around...or their suns are different or perhaps the aliens there ...all came here to live. ?
Well...physical laws should not change much from one system to another and that's a proven fact and so far everything we have "seen" out there pretty much conforms with the Galilean theory, everything is round and they go around something else, some are rogue planets and just travel by themselves until gravity from some mass pulls them in. From the atomic model to the universe, everything is so similar that I seriously doubt there is a different universe where our known physical laws do not apply, therefore similar occurrences must take place every once in a while. Unless there is another Universe, unknown to us where mass behaves differently I can not think of a change in our model.

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I think it is unlikely that there isn’t intelligent life somewhere else in the (un)known universe. And who can with certainly tell where the universe begins/ends. Theory can only give us a hint of what we think might be, but there is undoubtedly a lot we just don’t understand about the known universe, and beyond.

I also know that I once saw something very strange moving completely silent at an impossible speed, at a very low altitude one night in the middle of the Indian Ocean. I think I’ve mentioned it here before. It couldn’t be explained by anyone I know, including a supposedly very smart rocket scientist. It was kind of disturbing, and I still have no explaination for it. I’m generally sceptical when it comes to crazy people claiming to have seen all kinds of wierd UFO shit, but then on the other hand I suppose I am also one of them myself...
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:03 PM   #23
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The answer is 42. Everyone knows that.
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Well...physical laws should not change much from one system to another and that's a proven fact and so far everything we have "seen" out there pretty much conforms with the Galilean theory, everything is round and they go around something else, some are rogue planets and just travel by themselves until gravity from some mass pulls them in. From the atomic model to the universe, everything is so similar that I seriously doubt there is a different universe where our known physical laws do not apply, therefore similar occurrences must take place every once in a while. Unless there is another Universe, unknown to us where mass behaves differently I can not think of a change in our model.
Agreed. There is no reason for any shifts in the physical laws of universe from star system...to star system or another galaxy.
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AFAIK ...there have been around six mass extinctions here on the third rock out.
And the damned ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS keep restocking. It's a vicious cycle.
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In 1969...we put Americans on the Moon. It is nearly the same time gap between 1903...and 1969 as it is from 1969 till the present time. Where in the fuck are the USAF marked, FTL, Starships ??????
If it wasn't for the 'GREAT SOCIETY' and the U.S. feeding and protecting the rest of the world, we would have had a permanent station on the moon and had been to Mars already.
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Agreed. There is no reason for any shifts in the physical laws of universe from star system...to star system or another galaxy.
Unless of course, there is.
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If we follow that reasoning and knowing that an average star, similar to ours only live for about 10 billion years before becoming a supernova, then any civilization older than ours was already turned to ashes.
Thatis an assumption, not a conclusion, as it ignores the possibility of travel.
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Well...physical laws should not change much from one system to another and that's a proven fact ...
Actually, physical laws do change. For example, the laws of the very small, quantum mechanics, do not apply to molecule-sized or larger objects.

And the laws of the large, specified by Newton but scratched at by Galileo, do not apply to the atom and smaller objects.

Further, the laws that Newton specified do not apply to objects approaching the speed of light.

Even large (molecule-sized and larger) objects experience a change of laws based on temperature and pressure. As an example, water when heated and placed under enough pressure, becomes "supercritical" and is neither solid nor liquid nor gas, and can pass through a solid easily, like a ghost moving through a wall. You can google supercritical water (or other suprecritical fluids) for more info.

Also consider that none of the above laws works in a black hole (or ina theoretical wormhole).

So it is not the case that the physical laws never change.
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ALthough there are lots of crazy UFO reports from crazy people, there are also credible UFO reports from credible people, including from US military pilots with hundreds of hours of flight time experience and nothing to gain from wild stories.

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I also know that I once saw something very strange moving completely silent at an impossible speed, at a very low altitude one night in the middle of the Indian Ocean. I think I’ve mentioned it here before. It couldn’t be explained by anyone I know, including a supposedly very smart rocket scientist. It was kind of disturbing, and I still have no explaination for it. I’m generally sceptical when it comes to crazy people claiming to have seen all kinds of wierd UFO shit, but then on the other hand I suppose I am also one of them myself...
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