Anybody Going to Register Their Braced Pistols? - Page 2

Hunter07 · 01-19-2023, 07:26 PM

ATF's stabilizing brace ruling puts the most vulnerable Americans at risk!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_dm...lyArmedAmerica

Sanders · 01-20-2023, 08:11 AM

BREAKING ATF NEWS! Gun Owners of America Uncovers Fatal Flaw In Pistol Brace Rule...IT'S A TRAP!!!

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BLUF. Your form has 88 days before it turns sour and gets automatically rejected. In other words, it times out. The ATF can’t complete approvals at their normal pace in < 88 days, much less with millions of gun owners submitting forms for SBRs. When your forms time out, it creates enforcement action for the ATF since you now have an unapproved SBR, for which you have sent your name, pictures, address, SS # and virtually every other piece of identifying information. Read that again. ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

It’s a trap.

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2023...rule/#comments

FloridaAKM · 01-20-2023, 02:40 PM

Nothing like helping the Feds get the info they need to throw you in jail for 10 years & fine you $250,000.00. You apply for the free stamp, you give them that info with the application.

Now when they apply that ENFORCEMENT ACTION when your denied after 88 days, everything firearm related goes home with them, guns, ammo & they kill your dog.

Normally, you apply to build a SBR & pay your tax fee. When you get your stamp 10 months later, you now can build your SBR. This action they are putting forth tells them that you have already taken possession of the braced pistol & want your free tax stamp. Now life gets easy as you no longer have to go to work because you are locked up for 10 years.

RetVet · 01-20-2023, 03:04 PM

As a side note. Why apply for an SBR permit so you can keep that goofy, ill fitting pistol brace on your firearm when you can instead apply for a permit to build an SBR with a real stock on it?

This can of worms stinks more by the minute.

If you really want an SBR with all the regulatory shit show that goes with it, ditch that brace on that AR pistol, break it down into "just a box of parts" and apply for an SBR permit like in the olden days. Then build one with a proper stock on it once you have permit in hand. Of course, you will have to pay instead.

FloridaAKM · 01-21-2023, 08:47 AM

Sanders · 01-21-2023, 10:26 AM

If someone is going to do 10 years, no matter what, they will probably just drill that third hole and have some fun in Minecraft.

klauss · 01-22-2023, 04:09 PM

It gets better and better

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tK4gJeJ_CI4

4thIDvet · 01-22-2023, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RetVet

As a side note. Why apply for an SBR permit so you can keep that goofy, ill fitting pistol brace on your firearm when you can instead apply for a permit to build an SBR with a real stock on it?

This can of worms stinks more by the minute.

If you really want an SBR with all the regulatory shit show that goes with it, ditch that brace on that AR pistol, break it down into "just a box of parts" and apply for an SBR permit like in the olden days. Then build one with a proper stock on it once you have permit in hand. Of course, you will have to pay instead.

Can't someone just take the rear stock off brace or regular stock and call it a pistol? It would just have the piston?

RetVet · 01-22-2023, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 4thIDvet

Can't someone just take the rear stock off brace or regular stock and call it a pistol? It would just have the piston?

True.... maybe. Wording of the rule is such that even just the recoil spring tube could be considered to have enough surface area to be considered shoulderable. Amazing how the placement, or lack of, a simple punctuation mark can turn a sentence from clear to vague. Writing up vauge shit seems to be an ATF specialty.

Sanders · 01-23-2023, 09:06 AM

drh · 01-23-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by klauss

It gets better and better

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tK4gJeJ_CI4

922r only applies to imported rifles, but when the Ministry of Truth redefines words and history, then they can do whatever they like.

Sanders · 02-02-2023, 05:39 PM

4thIDvet · 02-03-2023, 10:19 AM

O.K. my quick thoughts for what their worth.

First my guess is 99% of the local cops who are supposed to I guess enforce this ATF bullsheeet. Will have NO FRIGGING idea what a 'pistol stock' is.
Hell most of them are almost indistinguishable from long gun stocks. Police know compliant LEGAL gun owners when they stop you. Be polite and I bet the farm if they even give a damn they will tell you to take the stock off have a good day good bye have fun at the range.
I really think were getting concerned about a completely unenforceable law.

GimpyPaw · 02-14-2023, 06:06 PM

Wait, so you guys actually own guns? I don’t own any guns myself. I just pretend to own guns so that I can blend in with the cool crowd.

drh · 02-15-2023, 10:09 AM

If one does the math based upon the number of those doing the background checks vs the estimated number of braced firearms, it would take that staff approximately 68 years to complete the BGC/Approvals.

So just the simple maths should tell anyone paying attention this is total bull$hi! and simply an attempt by the luciferians to subvert the 2A and move the last vestage of freedom into subservience to the globalist agenda

01-20-2023, 03:04 PM	#19
RetVet Statistical Error Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Homeless Posts: 43,703	As a side note. Why apply for an SBR permit so you can keep that goofy, ill fitting pistol brace on your firearm when you can instead apply for a permit to build an SBR with a real stock on it? This can of worms stinks more by the minute. If you really want an SBR with all the regulatory shit show that goes with it, ditch that brace on that AR pistol, break it down into "just a box of parts" and apply for an SBR permit like in the olden days. Then build one with a proper stock on it once you have permit in hand. Of course, you will have to pay instead. __________________ ^^^ For entertainment purposes. Use only as directed. ^^^ III

01-22-2023, 04:09 PM	#22
klauss Poof no eyebrows Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Somewhere in the USA Posts: 4,083	It gets better and better https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tK4gJeJ_CI4 __________________ alterius non sit qui suus esse potest!-"Let no man belong to another who can belong to himself." Heîs oiōnòs áristos, amýnesthai perì pátrēs- "There is only one omen, to fight for one's country"

01-19-2023, 07:26 PM	#16
Hunter07 I'm a grumpy SOB Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Posts: 10,530	ATF's stabilizing brace ruling puts the most vulnerable Americans at risk! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_dm...lyArmedAmerica

01-20-2023, 02:40 PM	#18
FloridaAKM Military Truck Collector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Florida Posts: 681	Nothing like helping the Feds get the info they need to throw you in jail for 10 years & fine you $250,000.00. You apply for the free stamp, you give them that info with the application. Now when they apply that ENFORCEMENT ACTION when your denied after 88 days, everything firearm related goes home with them, guns, ammo & they kill your dog. Normally, you apply to build a SBR & pay your tax fee. When you get your stamp 10 months later, you now can build your SBR. This action they are putting forth tells them that you have already taken possession of the braced pistol & want your free tax stamp. Now life gets easy as you no longer have to go to work because you are locked up for 10 years.

01-21-2023, 08:47 AM	#20
FloridaAKM Military Truck Collector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Florida Posts: 681

01-21-2023, 10:26 AM	#21
Sanders Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 66,557	If someone is going to do 10 years, no matter what, they will probably just drill that third hole and have some fun in Minecraft.

01-23-2023, 09:06 AM	#25
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02-02-2023, 05:39 PM	#27
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02-03-2023, 10:19 AM	#28
4thIDvet slug Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Astor Florida Posts: 48,519	O.K. my quick thoughts for what their worth. First my guess is 99% of the local cops who are supposed to I guess enforce this ATF bullsheeet. Will have NO FRIGGING idea what a 'pistol stock' is. Hell most of them are almost indistinguishable from long gun stocks. Police know compliant LEGAL gun owners when they stop you. Be polite and I bet the farm if they even give a damn they will tell you to take the stock off have a good day good bye have fun at the range. I really think were getting concerned about a completely unenforceable law.

02-14-2023, 06:06 PM	#29
GimpyPaw Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Oregon Posts: 669	Wait, so you guys actually own guns? I don’t own any guns myself. I just pretend to own guns so that I can blend in with the cool crowd.

02-15-2023, 10:09 AM	#30
drh I know things about stuff Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 1,221	If one does the math based upon the number of those doing the background checks vs the estimated number of braced firearms, it would take that staff approximately 68 years to complete the BGC/Approvals. So just the simple maths should tell anyone paying attention this is total bull$hi! and simply an attempt by the luciferians to subvert the 2A and move the last vestage of freedom into subservience to the globalist agenda