Polish "Makarov"

Pogo · 09-23-2006, 06:11 PM

My shooting buddy likes my Bulgarian Makarov, and was wanting me to pick him one up. Well, it seems they are about as scarce as hens teeth now. I see the Hungarian and Polish "Makarovs" are available from a lot of distributors. But, I understand they aren't a true Makarov. Anyone have either of those (the Polish P64 or the Hungarian PA63)? And if so, what do you think of them?

Preacher · 09-23-2006, 06:14 PM

I have one of the Polish P-64's and I love it. Accurate, dependable, and very slim which makes for easy concealment. It does jolt the hand a little when you shoot it, but the guys over at the P-64 have found a source of replacement springs to lighten the recoil.

It isn't bad, but it also isn't one that you would want to shoot all day.

RetVet · 09-23-2006, 06:18 PM

I have both. The Hungarian is a true Makarov, though with an alloy frame. More bite than a regular Mak due to the lower weight. Other than that, the one I got from Classic Arms was minty new and very well made.

The P64 uses the 9x18 round, but isn't a true Mak design. Smaller than the real deal. My hands aren't that big and it feels small in mine. Nice looking and well made as most of the Polish stuff is. I haven't taken the time to shoot it yet. Cosmetically, I was disappointed with the TG billboard on the frame under the barrel. Small and not visible from the side, but it's 3 lines worth, dot matrix, and fills the whole area!

The Century import stamp on the PA-63 is on the slide, small, and blends well with the factory markings. A significant departure from Century's usual billboard mentality when it comes to import marks.

Pogo · 09-23-2006, 06:25 PM

Kewl, thanks for the report guys. I'll tell my friend what you guys said, and let him decide.

ptannjr · 09-23-2006, 07:59 PM

the polish is closer to a ppk from what I remember. I had one that use to tear the thumb knockle to pieces when I shot mine. I got rid of it since it was my first pistol. got a ria insted. I am thinking it would be good to have again just for the round and size

Pogo · 09-23-2006, 08:06 PM

My shooting buddy is sort of like me. He has all kinds of firearms, but wants an inexpensive small handgun he can carry, but yet reliable and with a little more potency than a .22 Long Rifle. It seems that one of these might just fill the bill.

Preacher · 09-23-2006, 09:34 PM

Tell him not to be scared or disappointed when he first gets one. The DA trigger pull was somewhere around 57 pounds when we first got it.

After a box of shells it lightened up really nice. Also the safety has to be worked in a little too.

Preacher · 09-23-2006, 09:36 PM

Also, here's the link for the P-64 sight if he wants to check it out.

http://p64.home.insightbb.com/main.htm

dinkydow · 09-25-2006, 07:09 AM

Gee.......I just might know who is sitting on a good number of Russian Makarov pistols.

Pogo · 09-26-2006, 09:01 AM

Yeah, I just noticed Akron Armory has Russian Makarovs listed on his website. Dang I'm tempted. My wife would kill me if I bought another new gun so soon after the last one.

My buddy is wanting an el cheapo to carry and beat about with.

HorseSoldier176 · 09-26-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogo

My shooting buddy is sort of like me. He has all kinds of firearms, but wants an inexpensive small handgun he can carry, but yet reliable and with a little more potency than a .22 Long Rifle. It seems that one of these might just fill the bill.

I love Mak's, and Mak wannabe's, but as for carrying, I prefer the little Kel-Tec in full 9mmP. I personally don't like to carry anything smaller than full 9mmP. As the weather gets colder, I go back to .45ACP, since you need to penetrate more layers of clothing. 9mmP just doesn't have enough umph (IMO) to ensure penetration in multi layers of heavy clothing. (No, I am not willing to personally test this theory, by allowing one of you to shoot at me). I just prefer the full 9mmP for summer, Mak 9x18mm is good, but I want the power of .45ACP in winter.

5knives · 09-26-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogo

Yeah, I just noticed Akron Armory has Russian Makarovs listed on his website. Dang I'm tempted. My wife would kill me if I bought another new gun so soon after the last one.

My buddy is wanting an el cheapo to carry and beat about with.

I don't even know the current value of my Russian Maks, (just found the two that bhasve been "misplacedd for 6 years. Doesn't matter, I will never sell a one of them.

After living with a "backup" PPK for years that never got through a box of shells w/o a jam or three, I'm really fond of a pocket (well, field jacket pocket) pistol that will feed empty cases from the magazine, and chamber them, without a hiccup.

And all four will do that!

Accuraccy is the same w/ all 4 ... excellent.

No slide bite, and you can actually rest the maagazine floor plate on things for steadyness w/o causing a jam. Can't do that with any PPK or PPKS I ever saw. Don't kn ow bout PP only one I ever had was Nazi proofed in .32 and didn't have a problem.

Little rough at first, they smooth out greatly after 200 rounds or so.

Love 'em!

Regards,

Pogo · 09-26-2006, 05:47 PM

That P-64 arrived today from SOG. It was brand new, and looked really nice. I transferred it to my shooting buddy, and he was quite pleased with it. Nice little CCW piece for the price.

AKWARRIOR · 09-27-2006, 03:52 PM

I would not call a hungarian PA63 a makarov.It is more like a Walther PPK.Most those sellers that sell them on the auction sites list them as a makarov.:naw

WolfsburgBob · 09-27-2006, 04:02 PM

A link-a-dink.....

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09-23-2006, 06:11 PM	#1
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,969	Polish "Makarov" My shooting buddy likes my Bulgarian Makarov, and was wanting me to pick him one up. Well, it seems they are about as scarce as hens teeth now. I see the Hungarian and Polish "Makarovs" are available from a lot of distributors. But, I understand they aren't a true Makarov. Anyone have either of those (the Polish P64 or the Hungarian PA63)? And if so, what do you think of them? __________________ .................................................. ....................................… *We have met the enemy, and he is us!*

09-23-2006, 06:14 PM	#2
Preacher Chaplain/Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 11,321	I have one of the Polish P-64's and I love it. Accurate, dependable, and very slim which makes for easy concealment. It does jolt the hand a little when you shoot it, but the guys over at the P-64 have found a source of replacement springs to lighten the recoil. It isn't bad, but it also isn't one that you would want to shoot all day. __________________ You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done. Ronald Reagan - 1964 ------------------------------------- Bunker Member #4.

09-23-2006, 06:18 PM	#3
RetVet Statistical Error Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Homeless Posts: 43,654	I have both. The Hungarian is a true Makarov, though with an alloy frame. More bite than a regular Mak due to the lower weight. Other than that, the one I got from Classic Arms was minty new and very well made. The P64 uses the 9x18 round, but isn't a true Mak design. Smaller than the real deal. My hands aren't that big and it feels small in mine. Nice looking and well made as most of the Polish stuff is. I haven't taken the time to shoot it yet. Cosmetically, I was disappointed with the TG billboard on the frame under the barrel. Small and not visible from the side, but it's 3 lines worth, dot matrix, and fills the whole area! The Century import stamp on the PA-63 is on the slide, small, and blends well with the factory markings. A significant departure from Century's usual billboard mentality when it comes to import marks. __________________ ^^^ For entertainment purposes. Use only as directed. ^^^ III

09-23-2006, 07:59 PM	#5
ptannjr Just a dude! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ocala, Fl Posts: 6,059	the polish is closer to a ppk from what I remember. I had one that use to tear the thumb knockle to pieces when I shot mine. I got rid of it since it was my first pistol. got a ria insted. I am thinking it would be good to have again just for the round and size __________________ Consider this, Amateurs built the Ark, Professionals built the Titanic http://www.OcalaCarAudio.com

09-25-2006, 07:09 AM	#9
dinkydow Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 96,469	Gee.......I just might know who is sitting on a good number of Russian Makarov pistols. __________________ Our forefathers would have already been shooting...by now. "Let your plans be dark and as impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." "Violence of action means the unrestricted use of speed,strength, surprise and aggression to achieve total dominance against your enemy...any fighting technique is useless unless you totally commit to violence of action." Burning huts in commy vills worldwide since 1968

09-23-2006, 06:25 PM	#4
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,969	Kewl, thanks for the report guys. I'll tell my friend what you guys said, and let him decide.

09-23-2006, 08:06 PM	#6
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,969	My shooting buddy is sort of like me. He has all kinds of firearms, but wants an inexpensive small handgun he can carry, but yet reliable and with a little more potency than a .22 Long Rifle. It seems that one of these might just fill the bill.

09-23-2006, 09:34 PM	#7
Preacher Chaplain/Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 11,321	Tell him not to be scared or disappointed when he first gets one. The DA trigger pull was somewhere around 57 pounds when we first got it. After a box of shells it lightened up really nice. Also the safety has to be worked in a little too.

09-23-2006, 09:36 PM	#8
Preacher Chaplain/Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 11,321	Also, here's the link for the P-64 sight if he wants to check it out. http://p64.home.insightbb.com/main.htm

09-26-2006, 09:01 AM	#10
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,969	Yeah, I just noticed Akron Armory has Russian Makarovs listed on his website. Dang I'm tempted. My wife would kill me if I bought another new gun so soon after the last one. My buddy is wanting an el cheapo to carry and beat about with.

09-26-2006, 05:47 PM	#13
Pogo Mystic Knight of the Sea Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Great Swamp Posts: 81,969	That P-64 arrived today from SOG. It was brand new, and looked really nice. I transferred it to my shooting buddy, and he was quite pleased with it. Nice little CCW piece for the price.

09-27-2006, 03:52 PM	#14
AKWARRIOR Gone Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Here and Now Posts: 13,454	I would not call a hungarian PA63 a makarov.It is more like a Walther PPK.Most those sellers that sell them on the auction sites list them as a makarov.:naw __________________ WOLVERINES!!! "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined"-Patrick Henry

09-27-2006, 04:02 PM	#15
WolfsburgBob 2 down, ... 1 more to go! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The North Coast Posts: 349	A link-a-dink..... AFGAN ERA RUSSIAN MILITARY MAKAROV 9x18mm PMs! __________________ . "Never believed in 'karma', but people who have screwed me over seem to die in an untimely fashion." ... Bob Williams .