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  • dinkydow
    Moderator
    • Oct 2024
    • 225

    The shit is hitting the fan...

    ...as the jailers and gulag prison guards are REFUSING to release the presidential pardons of ALL of the j6 political prisoners. Many being held for four years without a trial. Presidential pardons are to IMMEDIATE effect....or....am I mistaken? Time to send in an army of US Marshall's backed up by armed soldiers to begin making arrests of these assholes. Fire them all and begin the lawsuits for unlawful imprisonment. Apparently some of the gulagers are saying that "there can be no pardon without a conviction.". After FOUR YEARS OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL DETAINMENT? Or.... does the constitutional guarantees of due process not apply? Some Nazis apparently do not understand that the North Korean DOJ...IS GONE?
  • GARANDNUT
    Member
    • Oct 2024
    • 60

    #2
    Send the National Guard and tell the Prison guards to stand aside and release the prisoners and if they do not comply kill all of them. I guarantee these fat fuck doughnut eating slugs will slink away like the vermin they are.

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    • merc
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2024
      • 114

      #3
      Pass the popcorn .
      Enough is enough .
      The C.O.'s need to stand down.
      Since when do they give a shit ?

      MERC

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      • Sanders
        Moderator
        • Oct 2024
        • 478

        #4
        Send in Delta Force to rescue the hostages.

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        • Johnny
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2024
          • 187

          #5
          I did just a bit of checking on this. Details are sketchy, but it doesn't look as though anybody's refusing to release the J6 people. I think it's a combination of a slow, bureaucratic jail release system and J6 families excited to see them.

          In small, county jails the process is simple and quick. Everybody knows everybody. For example; the chief jail deputy is neighbors with the prisoner. Both of them went to high school with the prosecutor and the magistrate's son mows everyone's grass. I'm exaggerating a bit, but not by much.

          Big prisons are big, stupid bureaucracies. By nature, they're gonna take longer.

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          • 10-32
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2024
            • 116

            #6
            No pardon without a conviction huh? Lets apply that to the Biden crime family and the J6 committee.

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            • rto
              Moderator
              • Oct 2024
              • 148

              #7
              They need to just release the political hostages and worry about the paperwork later.

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              • Retvet
                Moderator
                • Oct 2024
                • 159

                #8
                Originally posted by 10-32
                No pardon without a conviction huh? Lets apply that to the Biden crime family and the J6 committee.
                If a pardon before any charges are made isn't about as close to an admission of wrong doing I don't know what is.

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                • Sanders
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2024
                  • 478

                  #9

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                  • Sanders
                    Moderator
                    • Oct 2024
                    • 478

                    #10
                    Meanwhile, in other news..

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                    • Pogo
                      Mystic Knight of the sea
                      • Oct 2024
                      • 249

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dinkydow
                      ...as the jailers and gulag prison guards are REFUSING to release the presidential pardons of ALL of the j6 political prisoners. Many being held for four years without a trial. Presidential pardons are to IMMEDIATE effect....or....am I mistaken? Time to send in an army of US Marshall's backed up by armed soldiers to begin making arrests of these assholes. Fire them all and begin the lawsuits for unlawful imprisonment. Apparently some of the gulagers are saying that "there can be no pardon without a conviction.". After FOUR YEARS OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL DETAINMENT? Or.... does the constitutional guarantees of due process not apply? Some Nazis apparently do not understand that the North Korean DOJ...IS GONE?
                      If that is true, Trump will be firing a bunch of people.
                      We have met the enemy and he is us.

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                      • 4thIDvet
                        Slug
                        • Oct 2024
                        • 395

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Retvet

                        If a pardon before any charges are made isn't about as close to an admission of wrong doing I don't know what is.
                        Yup you and 10-32 and 1/2 the country is asking the same damn question. How the hell do you pardon someone who has no charges against them? Geez lets give immunity to someone who they 'think' did something wrong. 'Release of the prisoners?' I think Johnny is on the right track. I have gone to our local county jail to bail out friends who were bad boys. Holy sheeet even after paying the bail it took 1/2 the damn day for the paper work and release.
                        My guess is their being released after the 2 miles of paperwork and signatures are done. I may be wrong but that is my .02???

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                        • Sanders
                          Moderator
                          • Oct 2024
                          • 478

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pogo

                          If that is true, Trump will be firing a bunch of people.
                          He fired the head of the Bureau of Prisons today.

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                          • Johnny
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2024
                            • 187

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sanders

                            He fired the head of the Bureau of Prisons today.
                            That's exactly what needs to happen. When high level and powerful bureaucrats resist, defy and slow-walk lawful orders, they need to be terminated immediately. You get one chance. If you blow it, you're gone. It's as simple as that.

                            The ability to fire employees is actually healthy for any organization. When someone isn't pulling their weight, doesn't perform, doesn't get along with leadership, or doesn't fit into the culture, it's time to let them go. I've been on both sides of the firing process. It's never a pleasant thing for either side, but is a necessary evil.

                            Looking back on my career, most of the time I wasn't in a high enough level position to fire someone at the drop of a hat. Whether it's the Army or civilian sector, there's always a long process of documentation, second chances, warnings and re-training that needed to take place before actual termination. When I was in the position to terminate people more easily, I used that power very sparingly and still opted for the slower, more methodical approach, but not always. There's a time and place to fire someone quickly and "violently". The few times I did it this way were always for some sort of integrity violation.

                            The only thing worse than firing someone is NOT being able to fire someone. In the last job before I retired, I was a low-level manager saddled with a bunch of diversity hires and long-term "legacy" employees. I was stuck with who I had. Disciplining and terminating them was out of the question. I finally put in my 2-week notice. On my very last day I realized I was the last White male salaried manager in the building. Go figure.

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                            • 44044
                              Slug
                              • Oct 2024
                              • 128

                              #15
                              Thankfully I very seldom had to let

                              someone go…usually they would quit

                              But here in Missouri, you just tell them

                              that you don’t need them anymore

                              and that is all you have to do…but if

                              you give them a reason why, then they

                              have recourse…


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