Palmetto (PSA) Dagger pistols

[Retvet]

PSA makes a Glock clone called the Dagger. They sell them complete or as complete lowers with complete uppers you can also get. Back before Christmas they had a sale on their complete lowers. Full size (Glock 17), Compact (Glock 19), and Micro (Glock 43). I got one of each when they were $99 for 3 of them. A complete lower ready to build on. Think I've got about a dozen of them so far and we've done a few "group buys" on them where I work.

So far I've assembled 4 using more of less custom parts to complete the slides. But......... I'm running into problems. These things use Glock or Glock compatible parts and I've used just that. Good quality parts, Wolf, Ghost, NDZ, Glock OEM, Wilson Combat, etc. I'm running into a combination of fail to feed and/or fail to eject issues.

First time out I chalked it up to the shitty steel case Tula ammo I was using. I've since run them with better quality brass case FMJ. Still getting fail to feed and eject far to often.

Not sure where the problem is. I know when I assembled the slides the exxtractor plunger/spring assembly is tough to push in far enough to slide the back plate up. It goes, but I don't think I should have to use as much force to get it in and the back plate slid up to close. Those springs don't give a whole lot and they are OEM. I'm thinking this is where the problem could be as the rimmed portion of the rounds are having a hard time sliding up and getting the lip under the extractor.

Any advise, thoughts, solutions?

[Sanders]

Sounds like you may have figured it out. It's never a good sign if you have to force a part into place, that normally shouldn't have to be forced - unless you're building an AK.

But, I'm not a Glock guy, either. I'm having issues with my 1911 after putting a new set of Wilson springs into it. Never had a problem with the pistol until it got new springs. Now, it will go slide lock on the 7th round of an 8 round mag I never had problems with before. I think it may be my grip of all things, holding it the way I hold my 9mm. Just haven't had a chance to test that theory, yet.

Does the Glock have an extractor you can "tune" like a 1911? Does it pass the rim test of slipping a round up under it freely?

[10-32]

As mentioned it may be too much spring tension on the extractor/plunger. The parts are cheap so maybe trim a coil or two off the plunger spring. Also, what magazines are you using? Most feed issues are magazine related.

[Retvet]

I have a batch of replacement springs coming and will try trimming one down once I have them.

The extractor isn't tuneable as far as I know.

I did get a replacement extractor rod assembly from NDZ today. It installed easier than others. Looks the same length as others. Maybe the spring isn't as strong?

I'll test fire again later when it gets a little warmer. Shooting with freezing fingers is no fun.

[aviator]

Sounds like you may have figured it out. It's never a good sign if you have to force a part into place, that normally shouldn't have to be forced - unless you're building an AK.

But, I'm not a Glock guy, either. I'm having issues with my 1911 after putting a new set of Wilson springs into it. Never had a problem with the pistol until it got new springs. Now, it will go slide lock on the 7th round of an 8 round mag I never had problems with before. I think it may be my grip of all things, holding it the way I hold my 9mm. Just haven't had a chance to test that theory, yet.

Does the Glock have an extractor you can "tune" like a 1911? Does it pass the rim test of slipping a round up under it freely?

Change mag, or use a strong grip, 1911's are susceptible to limp wrists.

[Sanders]

Change mag, or use a strong grip, 1911's are susceptible to limp wrists.

I thought it was mags at first, but after testing 8 different mags and getting the same result, I ruled that out. Grip could have been the problem, but I'm not so sure. After years and North of 10,000 rounds, my muscle memory is pretty good. I use a tighter grip on the 9mm, which gives me greater accuracy. I tried that same tight grip on the 1911 and started having problems. But, I'm not convinced it was the grip.

I'd forgotten, but I used an Ed Brown rebuild kit instead of Wilson. Apparently, the Ed Brown kits are notorious for causing problems with the slide stop because their springs are too strong. I had a Wilson spring kit in my stuff that I didn't remember buying. Now, I just need to get out and do some test firing.