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  • aviator
    Administrator
    • Oct 2024
    • 2262

    So now what?

    Iran did not negotiate. They are still holding a couple of Aces in their hand and now we're just going to sit idle? Are we waiting for the "two week cease fire" to end and bomb the hell out of them or did we run out of steam? Blockade? That's BS and we know it, the next Russian or Chinese tanker that goes by will get through, we don't want to start WWIII, so then what have we done? Did we accomplish anything? Intelligence suggests they still have some nuclear stuff in the rubble, it's just a matter of rebuild the labs and back to square one. What's the next step Trump? I'm not happy with what I see so far.
    Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.
  • rto
    Moderator
    • Oct 2024
    • 830

    #2
    Trump should have let the Kurds go in to create turmoil with Iran's ground forces. Look what the vietcong did to the arvns on a daily basis. My point is that the bad guys need to be removed from every hiding spot that the missiles and bombs don't reach. There are ground forces there ready to fight and die for their cause and they are not our military.

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    • aviator
      Administrator
      • Oct 2024
      • 2262

      #3
      I'd get rid of Pete Hegseth and get somebody in with more experience and maturity to run the show and let him do what needs to be done and finish the job. We never finish what we start,
      Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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      • rto
        Moderator
        • Oct 2024
        • 830

        #4
        What I see happening is that Trump is trying to micromanage everything and if it works he takes credit for it and if it fails he blames whoever is in that position. He needs to calm down and think before ranting.

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        • GARANDNUT
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2024
          • 361

          #5
          The blockade is to stop Iranians from leaving port and to prevent aid and weapons from going into Iran. CENTCOM clearly states all other ships will be allowed to pass without interference. This move was to open the straight not to close it as it is now unless the ships pay Iran money to transit. Russia does not need the straight or its ports and they will not get involved. China does and they will have to submit to inspection before they can dock in Iran. In the mean time, the US is exporting oil like crazy to fill the gaps to Europe and other nations dependent on Iranian oil, a net plus for us.

          The Kurds shit the bed. They were supplied with weapons to be handed out to the Immortal Guard (one of the anti IRGC faction) and they stole them. This is the only screw up in an otherwise flawless operation.

          Trump has divided the IRGC and no one is in charge. They blinked first and ask for negotiations but they tried their usual stalling tactic and hope the rest of the world and the traitorous population here will put pressure on the US to stop the bombing. Trump did not fall for it. The ceasefire was a diversion and while it was going on he moved the fleet into the straight and more air assets and resupply are going in. Street fighting is going on right now in Iran and but the media not reporting it. If we follow the course the IRGC will fall completely. It as not even been two months yet and this is not a boomer style brush war. Trump intends to win if he is not stopped, it just will not look like the end of WWII. If you notice Trump has not targeted the regular Iranian army command. I suspect they are a faction that is talking to Trump. Israel has communicated that there is a phase two involving a popular uprising but regime change and nation building was never the goal.

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          • 44044
            Slug
            • Oct 2024
            • 719

            #6
            If they don’t want to play ball with US

            We shove the bat up their ass and

            kick the handle off…

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            • aviator
              Administrator
              • Oct 2024
              • 2262

              #7
              Originally posted by GARANDNUT
              The blockade is to stop Iranians from leaving port and to prevent aid and weapons from going into Iran. CENTCOM clearly states all other ships will be allowed to pass without interference. This move was to open the straight not to close it as it is now unless the ships pay Iran money to transit. Russia does not need the straight or its ports and they will not get involved. China does and they will have to submit to inspection before they can dock in Iran. In the mean time, the US is exporting oil like crazy to fill the gaps to Europe and other nations dependent on Iranian oil, a net plus for us.

              The Kurds shit the bed. They were supplied with weapons to be handed out to the Immortal Guard (one of the anti IRGC faction) and they stole them. This is the only screw up in an otherwise flawless operation.

              Trump has divided the IRGC and no one is in charge. They blinked first and ask for negotiations but they tried their usual stalling tactic and hope the rest of the world and the traitorous population here will put pressure on the US to stop the bombing. Trump did not fall for it. The ceasefire was a diversion and while it was going on he moved the fleet into the straight and more air assets and resupply are going in. Street fighting is going on right now in Iran and but the media not reporting it. If we follow the course the IRGC will fall completely. It as not even been two months yet and this is not a boomer style brush war. Trump intends to win if he is not stopped, it just will not look like the end of WWII. If you notice Trump has not targeted the regular Iranian army command. I suspect they are a faction that is talking to Trump. Israel has communicated that there is a phase two involving a popular uprising but regime change and nation building was never the goal.
              I hope those assumptions are right but I don't like the looks of it. When a Chinese or Russian ship arrives and you know they will, stopping them will create a larger international conflict for which Trump doesn't really have a way out other than looking really bad (for lack of a better word...yes, fool) .
              Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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              • 10-32
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2024
                • 432

                #8
                We already seized a few "ghost" ships moving oil from Venezuela to China and Cuba. No WWIII. Iran will bow to our will. The world order established following WWII is being reshaped. We are reestablishing dominance militarily and economically. NATO and the UN are going to go away.

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                • aviator
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2024
                  • 2262

                  #9
                  NATO and UN can go play with a stick and dog shit (something my Spaniard grandfather used to say when I was a pain in the ass).
                  Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                  • aviator
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2024
                    • 2262

                    #10
                    Well we are naw back to the beginning. You cannot negotiate with those bastards.
                    Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                    • 4thIDvet
                      Slug
                      • Oct 2024
                      • 1763

                      #11
                      Originally posted by aviator
                      Well we are naw back to the beginning. You cannot negotiate with those bastards.
                      Oh their negotiating but Iran want's the import ban lifted then they will open the strait. PT says no open up then the ban will be lifted.
                      Fred one minute the strait is open the next its closed according to news sources. To hell with the oil I just read they mentioned the 'fertilizer' for the first time. The problem is not us having the crude oil its the processing refining from crude to gasoline that is causing the damn price problems. Damn Newscum and Slow Joe 'Obama' caused one gas refining facility to close in Komifornia and the Dumbocrats virtually almost killed the few others we have.
                      Taxes and EPA crap and they damn near all shut down.

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                      • 55chevy
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2024
                        • 197

                        #12
                        negotiating ? Nothing will happen, they do not intend to make a deal! It's all BS! It is written Iran will be destroyed. Regular gas here last night posted at $5+ and diesel at b$6.25.

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                        • aviator
                          Administrator
                          • Oct 2024
                          • 2262

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 55chevy
                          negotiating ? Nothing will happen, they do not intend to make a deal! It's all BS! It is written Iran will be destroyed. Regular gas here last night posted at $5+ and diesel at b$6.25.
                          Well, what goes up must come down, I'm not really concerned about gas at $5.00 for a while. We've been there before. Iran wants to buy time to move nuclear material to a secure location and that's their freaking game. I hope POTUS and his assessors are smart enough to see that and keep eyes on the sky above them. The only way to deal with these people is to annihilate them.
                          Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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