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  • Retvet
    Moderator
    • Oct 2024
    • 542

    Shit or get off the pot

    Trump needs to put up or shut up with this Iran bullshit. This on again off again bartering, wheeling and dealing, whatever you want to call it with Iran is becoming a never ending clusterfuck.

    We can't just keep playing patty cake. Either kick ass or GTF out. The shit is playing hell with our economy and he's just pissing off more and more of his base.

    Make a decision and stick to it or STFU!

  • FloridaAKM
    Certified Retiree
    • Oct 2024
    • 125

    #2
    What he is doing may work in Manhattan, but Iran is a bunch of blood thirsty terrorists that have had 47 years to perfect their trade. They care nothing about human life & would have already nuked Israel or the US if they had the means to do so.

    Nukes are out, but there is plenty other means to dispatch them.

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    • Retvet
      Moderator
      • Oct 2024
      • 542

      #3
      There's no "making deals" with Muslim fanatics. To them this is a holy war. Until they are eliminated there will be no end to the shit show. They will use a nuke if they get one. That you can carve in stone.

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      • rto
        Moderator
        • Oct 2024
        • 735

        #4
        Wouldn't surprise me if north korea supplied iran with a nuke just start more sh!t.

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        • aviator
          Administrator
          • Oct 2024
          • 2028

          #5
          You cannot deal with those guys, there are like three different sects (for lack of a better term) in control and they don't get along among themselves so what do you expect? Blow them all to hell and let Allah sort them out. Trump is being stupid.
          Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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          • aviator
            Administrator
            • Oct 2024
            • 2028

            #6
            I reckon he wised up, no?
            Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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            • GARANDNUT
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2024
              • 314

              #7
              Trump is engaging in siege warfare. The Romans were masters of it and it cost fewer lives and treasure. I doubt it will work as it is almost impossible to lay siege to an entire nation but it was used effectively against imperial Japan in WWII. He is trying to create a pressure point to tip what is left of the government over the edge. He will also need a declaration of war to go much further which he will not get nor should he.

              What makes sense to me is to trash their infrastructure, ports and oil facilities then maintain a permanent blockade. The short fall in oil will effect China and Europe which will force them to get their oil from us which is happening right now. If it gets bad enough he is hoping the nations that are most effected will step in which they wont nor can they.

              The nuke weapon talk is a diversion. Even if Iran can get a nuke they will hold the middle east and the straight hostage until their oil is no longer needed or the Arab states go around Iran which they have been working on for some time. The movement toward nuclear and sourcing oil from less volatile nations will pick up the slack. The boomer fools days in Iran are numbered as their only export becomes irrelevant but it will take time. Also remember all the talking head "experts" in the media and on the interwed have no idea what he is planning or what is going on so they make it up.

              Arabs and Muslims suck.

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              • 10-32
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2024
                • 398

                #8
                They hoaxed him endlessly, impeached him twice, made up fake cases and convicted him, tried to bankrupt him with bogus judgments, shot him. He is acting exactly as he should...zero fucks to give. He can't run again. Every candidate he endorses wins. The RINOs hate him but they are afraid of being primaried so they sit on their hands in the senate and stall his agenda. He is the only one that has had the balls to take on the Iran problem and I think we need to let things play out. It took decades to get here. We can't expect it to be fixed in a matter of weeks.

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                • aviator
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2024
                  • 2028

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GARANDNUT
                  Trump is engaging in siege warfare. The Romans were masters of it and it cost fewer lives and treasure. I doubt it will work as it is almost impossible to lay siege to an entire nation but it was used effectively against imperial Japan in WWII. He is trying to create a pressure point to tip what is left of the government over the edge. He will also need a declaration of war to go much further which he will not get nor should he.

                  What makes sense to me is to trash their infrastructure, ports and oil facilities then maintain a permanent blockade. The short fall in oil will effect China and Europe which will force them to get their oil from us which is happening right now. If it gets bad enough he is hoping the nations that are most effected will step in which they wont nor can they.

                  The nuke weapon talk is a diversion. Even if Iran can get a nuke they will hold the middle east and the straight hostage until their oil is no longer needed or the Arab states go around Iran which they have been working on for some time. The movement toward nuclear and sourcing oil from less volatile nations will pick up the slack. The boomer fools days in Iran are numbered as their only export becomes irrelevant but it will take time. Also remember all the talking head "experts" in the media and on the interwed have no idea what he is planning or what is going on so they make it up.

                  Arabs and Muslims suck.
                  "to tip what is left of the government over the edge" Which government? is the question. The country is in such a disarray without an Ayatollah that there are three or four different groups each trying to do their thing.
                  Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                  • GARANDNUT
                    GARANDNUT commented
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                    The IRGC is in control not the Ayatollah. He is probably dead or brain dead. Even if the Ayatollah is coherent he is still not pulling the strings. The tipping point is an armed uprising from the Iranians but we have to arm them. This is what we tried to do, but stupidly and against Trumps recommendation, they gave the weapons to the Kurds who immediately stole them.
                • Retvet
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2024
                  • 542

                  #10
                  This crap all comes compliments of Jimmy Carter who was too much of a candy ass to crush the Iranian head bangers in the 70's when they toppled the Shaw and took US hostages. Jimmy fucking Carter, the one term shit for brain peanut farmer

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                  • GARANDNUT
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2024
                    • 314

                    #11
                    Originally posted by Retvet
                    This crap all comes compliments of Jimmy Carter who was too much of a candy ass to crush the Iranian head bangers in the 70's when they toppled the Shaw and took US hostages. Jimmy fucking Carter, the one term shit for brain peanut farmer
                    Dead on. Remember though his handlers in Europe sheltered the ayatollah in France and installed him after the Shaw was run off. This was a plan to control the flow of oil with who they thought was their guy. This actual predates the 1978 and started in the early 20th Century when the Brits wanted to stop the nationalization of Iranian oil by the then Shaw. The Brits love Islam because they know they can bribe their way into their favor. This has been going on since Islam oozed out of the middle east.

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                    • Sanders
                      Moderator
                      • Oct 2024
                      • 1449

                      #12
                      Originally posted by 10-32
                      They hoaxed him endlessly, impeached him twice, made up fake cases and convicted him, tried to bankrupt him with bogus judgments, shot him. He is acting exactly as he should...zero fucks to give. He can't run again. Every candidate he endorses wins. The RINOs hate him but they are afraid of being primaried so they sit on their hands in the senate and stall his agenda. He is the only one that has had the balls to take on the Iran problem and I think we need to let things play out. It took decades to get here. We can't expect it to be fixed in a matter of weeks.
                      JD Vance is President of the Senate, but he hasn't done anything to move things along there. I wonder why?

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                      • aviator
                        Administrator
                        • Oct 2024
                        • 2028

                        #13
                        Originally posted by Sanders

                        JD Vance is President of the Senate, but he hasn't done anything to move things along there. I wonder why?
                        He looks mean, sounds mean...doesn't get shit done. Being VP is a tough job, you can't outshine your boss.
                        Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                        • rto
                          Moderator
                          • Oct 2024
                          • 735

                          #14
                          Shit or get off the pot

                          Send in the Kurds.

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                          • 4thIDvet
                            Slug
                            • Oct 2024
                            • 1581

                            #15
                            Originally posted by rto
                            Shit or get off the pot

                            Send in the Kurds.
                            Yup the freaking Kurds hate all those sand niqqers. Some years back one of the damn invasions into 'Iraq'? the U.S. Army 4th Inf. was massing in Turkey and was going to invade Iraq sweeping in from the north. The U.S. Marines and U.S. Army mech units were hitting from the south in a pincher movement.
                            Ready to go and at the last minute A hole Turkey said 'NO GO GET OUT' so the 4th had to board ships and cruise around to the south of Iraq essentially taking them out of the fight,. The U.S. had to do a drop of the 82nd A.B.... One pass and the whole division did not get in. The Kurds hooked up with them and they fought south to link up with friendlies.
                            The Kurds are good their 1000% anti Taliban. They can only fight when we supply them.

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