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  • Solid Snake
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    • Oct 2024
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    Taking away my dad's gun....

    I hate to be the downer of the Dirty Dozen's Bunker with the thread about my grandmother and now this. Its just that crap seems to be piling on all at once.

    A couple years ago, my dad gave all of his guns to my brother and I told us to keep what we wanted and sell the rest. He wasn't hunting anymore and didn't see the need to have a bunch of guns. All he wanted was to keep his Glock 26 for home defense. Earlier this year, he asked me to help him unload his mags and put fresh ammo in. My dad has the early stages of Parkinsons, and it been getting worse. Knowing he can't properly manipulate a semi-auto, I took his Glock and gave him my Smith snub nose .38. Since then, like I said, his Parkinsons has gotten worse.

    Last night, my mom found a .38 caliber round in the bed. She showed it to me because she was very concerned. It was an older round, full lead round nose, not the rounds I had in the snubby. But it was still odd. My mom asked me to sneak in when I got the chance and remove the snubby from his dresser. I agreed that was a good idea. We're afraid that if his condition worsens to a point, he might retrieve the gun and do the unthinkable.

    Back when his dad was dying, he and his brother-in-law had to scour the house and remove all of my grandpa's guns. My grandpa was bed ridden at that point. He asked anyone who came to see him, "Get my gun from the dresser, cock the hammer and leave the room."

    So, my dad having access to a gun could be a problem. He no longer needs one for self defense. If a home invader kicks in the door, it would take him three to four minutes to get to the bedroom to get the snubby.

    The problem is that its all about pride. We as men are proud. If my dad realizes I removed his gun, I'm going to have to tell him why. As a proud man, who doesn't want to admit (or doesn't recognize) that a gun is a liability for him, this will be a difficult situation for me. But it needs to be done.

    Has anyone else ever had to make this difficult decision? If so, how did it go? I'm open to any advice.
  • Retvet
    Moderator
    • Oct 2024
    • 581

    #2
    My sister removed all of our dads firearms from his house after he was involved in a dwi traffic accident. He was in his late 70's at the time and being he lived in California it was required. It wasn't a big deal to him as he no longer went hunting and wasn't someone who collected guns. Most of what he had came from me.

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    • Solid Snake
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      • Oct 2024
      • 402

      #3
      My biggest concern is my dad realizing the gun is gone, and me having to explain that I took it and why.

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      • Bluntforce
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2024
        • 442

        #4
        Four options, none attractive. Third and fourth one will probably get me told that they are dangerous, cruel and I’m stupid as well as an example of a guy giving a better guy bad advice. Since I’m the resident asshole I’ll make the suggestions.

        1) Do nothing.

        2) Take the gun and have the talk.

        3) Disable the gun in a non-visible way IF possible.

        4) Secure ALL ammunition and replace with cartridges loaded with dummy primers, no powder and real bullets. Weight difference will be difficult to detect. Problems not finding all live rounds, more live rounds can be brought in, you have to load replica rounds yourself to be sure it has been done right let alone done.

        My grandmother died of Parkinson’s, her daughter died of brain cancer. The other side all dies of cancer but they live a long time with it. My mother was more tumor than human when she died and I’m older than my father ever got. So I approach this from stupidity and not ignorance.

        Being there like you are is the hardest and bravest decision. There is no “good” choice in this matter but no matter how hard it is to believe there is no “wrong” choice because you’ve already made the hard choice to take care of your family. You won’t be wrong no matter how you feel or what happens because you are acting from the right.

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        • Solid Snake
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          • Oct 2024
          • 402

          #5
          Originally posted by Bluntforce
          3) Disable the gun in a non-visible way IF possible.
          This is an interesting idea. I've already opened up this Smith revolver to eliminate the Hillary hole (that stupid internal safety). Maybe I could open up the gun again and remove the internal hammer or firing pin.

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          • GimpyPaw
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2024
            • 429

            #6
            You need to tell him. He opens the drawer, notices the gun is gone, what’s he going to think? “Oh shit, did I leave it out somewhere? Does my wife have it, and why? Was it stolen?”

            Don’t add unnecessary panic or stress to his life.

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            • aviator
              Administrator
              • Oct 2024
              • 2253

              #7
              Originally posted by Solid Snake
              I hate to be the downer of the Dirty Dozen's Bunker with the thread about my grandmother and now this. Its just that crap seems to be piling on all at once.

              A couple years ago, my dad gave all of his guns to my brother and I told us to keep what we wanted and sell the rest. He wasn't hunting anymore and didn't see the need to have a bunch of guns. All he wanted was to keep his Glock 26 for home defense. Earlier this year, he asked me to help him unload his mags and put fresh ammo in. My dad has the early stages of Parkinsons, and it been getting worse. Knowing he can't properly manipulate a semi-auto, I took his Glock and gave him my Smith snub nose .38. Since then, like I said, his Parkinsons has gotten worse.

              Last night, my mom found a .38 caliber round in the bed. She showed it to me because she was very concerned. It was an older round, full lead round nose, not the rounds I had in the snubby. But it was still odd. My mom asked me to sneak in when I got the chance and remove the snubby from his dresser. I agreed that was a good idea. We're afraid that if his condition worsens to a point, he might retrieve the gun and do the unthinkable.

              Back when his dad was dying, he and his brother-in-law had to scour the house and remove all of my grandpa's guns. My grandpa was bed ridden at that point. He asked anyone who came to see him, "Get my gun from the dresser, cock the hammer and leave the room."

              So, my dad having access to a gun could be a problem. He no longer needs one for self defense. If a home invader kicks in the door, it would take him three to four minutes to get to the bedroom to get the snubby.

              The problem is that its all about pride. We as men are proud. If my dad realizes I removed his gun, I'm going to have to tell him why. As a proud man, who doesn't want to admit (or doesn't recognize) that a gun is a liability for him, this will be a difficult situation for me. But it needs to be done.

              Has anyone else ever had to make this difficult decision? If so, how did it go? I'm open to any advice.
              Yeah when my father in law got really bad he mentioned killing himself, I took his gun out while they gave him a shower, a small shitty .22 rifle but it was going to cause more problems than he already had, he lasted a week after that. his shithead son (my BIL) came asking for it. by all means jack, I surely don't need it. My dad? the alcohol brain damaged guy kept asking me for guns and he would "loose" them,, probably gave them away or pawned them, he did it twice, third time he asked I told him go and buy one. Take the gun away, you don't need your mom to face that, it's tough.
              Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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              • baboon
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2024
                • 924

                #8
                Y’all know my wife shot herself using my model S&W Bodyguard. +P+ hollow points. Put in her mouth was dead before she hit the floor. No exit wound, only some very thick blood.

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                • 44044
                  Slug
                  • Oct 2024
                  • 717

                  #9
                  I’ve had to deal with this, in the past…

                  No matter what you do, it is better than

                  the worst scenario…

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                  • Solid Snake
                    Forklift certified
                    • Oct 2024
                    • 402

                    #10
                    Well, I just took my dad's gun away. Its a shitty feeling but it needed to be done.

                    I guess he said something that got my mom a little concerned, so she secretly asked me to get it. I went to where it should be and it wasn't there. Looked everywhere in his bedroom and couldn't find it. Now I'm feeling uneasy. My mom started looking in the other bedroom. Dad must have gotten suspicious and got up to see what she was doing. My mom flat out said, "Where's your gun?" So I walked in and sternly said "Dad, where is it?" He told me where it was and I retrieved it. The fact that he moved it was a bit scary. He said he moved it because he knew my mom would want to take it someday. He seemed to handle it okay, like he knew this day was coming, but I know it dinged his pride and ego a bit. Oh well, I'd rather hurt his feelings than allow the worst to happen.
                    Last edited by Solid Snake; 07-29-2025, 08:24 PM.

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                    • aviator
                      Administrator
                      • Oct 2024
                      • 2253

                      #11
                      At least he had only one gun. I have guns all over the place because you never know when you'll need one.
                      Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                      • Solid Snake
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                        • Oct 2024
                        • 402

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aviator
                        At least he had only one gun. I have guns all over the place because you never know when you'll need one.
                        Luckily a few years ago, my dad gave all of his guns to my brother and I except for one handgun. And I gave him back one of his shotguns last year to go hunting with. So I didn't have to track down many guns. But my grandfather had a LOT of guns. And the were hidden all over his house. In his final days, my dad and my uncle had to spend days combing the entire house to get them all.

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                        • Sanders
                          Moderator
                          • Oct 2024
                          • 1562

                          #13
                          Originally posted by aviator
                          At least he had only one gun. I have guns all over the place because you never know when you'll need one.
                          I think my cousin has us all beat. He found a gun he had hidden behind the sheetrock in his house that he forgot he put there. His house caught on fire and it was totalled by insurance from the smoke damage and water damage from the fire department. When he was moving his stuff out, he knocked a hole in the wall and found his lost pistol, in good shape. I think it was a little .22LR Beretta NEOs.

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                          • aviator
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2024
                            • 2253

                            #14
                            My younger son is in charge of them when I die, he knows where most are. No one kills me if I can shoot first...except freaking doctors.
                            Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                            • 44044
                              Slug
                              • Oct 2024
                              • 717

                              #15
                              I’ve already started giving my guns away

                              But there are several that I shall retain

                              for now…

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