Any Mosin Nagant Guys Here?

[Bluntforce]

Figured out what the hold up was with that first round nonsense. It’s a feeble attempt at rimlock easily cured by a palm heel to the back of the bolt. Makes a twenty first century backyard shooter wonder if that was thunked up deliberately by a nineteenth century drunken tundra munkey just for such occurrences.
One thing that demands a finger/thumb in the mag is when a round ends up dramatically nose down in the mag. No room for it to happen with the first two. If it happens again I might pinpoint why if I don’t push the butt end down and go on.
Soon (twenty more rounds of the mystery FNJs) and it will be Olga’s svelte Slavic form up to bat after that Rubinesque Finnish fatty Lotta gets her anti-corrosive scrub down.
Then I’ll have a pile of Czech light ball and a Fudd appropriate quantity of Barnaul soft points.

[Bluntforce]

The M38 is a war crime against anyone it was issued to. It does not like stripper clips so she’s now a porn star only taking one load at a time.

It does not like having the bolt closed on a loaded chamber and after much pondering and a little YouTubing I remembered what I did back at the turn of the century when I had an M44. I planted the bayonet into the lawn and poured boiled water down the bore. Never had any trouble with the chamber after scalding that dog thusly. (Never had grass in that spot the rest of that season either. Wish I’d had enough cosmoline for the whole lawn.)

I managed 16 miserable rounds, the problem being closing the bolt. The evil plan is to go to Hobby Lobby and get a bag of corks to either plug at the muzzle or at the end of the chamber and clean it like it was a black powder. If you can believe what they print about cleaning Springfield and Enfield front stuffers during the Civil War a bucket of warm water and soap was used to scrub the bore.

My plan that God is laughing at is to fill the chamber with biling hot watra and scrub Olga’s naughty nethers while the cosmoline melting hotness is like that real beef taste, “It’s in there!”

If that doesn’t make the bolt close with only mostly peaceful protest I’ll channel Davey Crockett and just beat things with it like a deformed Louisville Slugger (the “bat” being deformed in this case, not me).

Two days ago it was cold and it kept the barrel of the M39 noticably cooler going through more than seventy rounds than as hot as it got doing twenty all the days before and the warm day after. Two things the Finns said about their peaceful cultural interactions with the Russians, they would take a bolt out of a Russian Mosin and put it in theirs for the sloppier fit that made it easier to operate the Finnish Frankensteins. They would also leave their rifles out of their heated bunkers so the rifles lived in the temperatures they worked in. I left Olga in an unheated place last night and she repaid me with appropriate frigidness after a shitty cold night. Good to know if your best laids are to make a 44 a truck or shed gun.

[Bluntforce]

Back to topic and let the dead horse stink. I didn’t induce rimlock in laboratory conditions in February. I did with the M39 by loading it upside down through not staring at my hands. It was easily overcome by palm striking the back of the bolt.

The M38 is just an infernal matriarchal fornicator on that point and as likely to Marquis of Queensbury as an angry Boston mob.

There is an ancient video by a most likely long dead YouTuber who is almost as boring as I am that just taught me about a Mosin bolt issue I had never heard of while robbing me of the “mystery” of the origin of the piss yellow washed Soviet rounds. Truly it was Tula or Izhevsk but I was hoping for Polish, Bulgarian, Serbian or Dr. Pepper you know, ‘The Unusual’. The guy posted seven videos fourteen to twelve years ago. Flatbrokegunner is the channel name. Like Millie Vanilli the dream was over while I was chatting up the exotic chick at the shoulder dislocation bar and she was looking all ethnic and shit. I was thinking maybe Moroccan or Pakistani and some dickhead says, “Hi, Rosie!”, and I’m like Fucking Puerto Rican! Thinking I could at least make a Jihadi or convenience store tycoon bastardo and then have my hopes dashed that he’d just be a bicycle thief.

None of that hopelash has fuckall to do with how to get the cases to go into the mag from the stripper.

To that point:

Twist loaded clips gently top two counter to bottom two to make them a bit more cooperative. Not overdoing is the trick, I think this helped.

Load them in the / way.

Try to operate this ahole family of weapons in enough light to eliminate any guesswork.

Remember this weapon was designed while people that fought Napoleon still walked the earth and had living memory (and therefore comparison to consciously or not) of lock time a day long, loading time a week long and hitting a man sized target at two hundred yards a miracle.

It was used by an army that sang songs about how great it was to die for their holy black dirt while the Germans were singing about how they got paid regularly and the odds of dying weren’t that high. (They were being shot at with Mosins after all) The French were singing songs about how they used to kick ass. (Like Steve Miller that time kept slipping, slipping, slipping but unlike his song back into the past) And the English were singing songs about how they just kicked ass and are now getting drunk toasting everybody’s health. (In other words about being self satisfied drunks, truly the only way to go through life.)

I love it because it’s ugly, clumsy and too heavy in every form (like me). I look at it like the two swords the Apostles had, just enough to justify the current authorities to arrest, imprison and execute you over but also enough to send the Fuck You message loud and clear.

[Sheepdawg]

I have a safe full of Swedish and German Mausers and one Finn M39. Pretty darn accurate but the Mauser bolts spoiled me.

I do have a 1936 hex receiver Tula 91/30. I won't even look at it.

[Boris]

I have an M38 and a 91/30 ,,I've tried to like but them but I don't..I have disssembled the bolt,cleaned them throughly and even boiled ,,cleaned out chamber best I could with a wire brush and some jewlers polish on a drill and still have Mosin sticky bolt syndrome..I havent even had them down from the rack in 10+ years other than to wipe the dust off of them but if people are paying 750 for them maybe nows the time to make room for something better

[dinkydow]

I've never used a stripper clip for a Mosin. I just load them by hand.

I have five of them to include a scoped sniper rifle model. I have never used a clip with them. Mine always fired and never jammed up.

[10-32]

I passed my Tula M44 along to my step son along with 440 rounds. Those spam cans are a bitch to open. Its a re-arsenal with a counterbored muzzle. Picked it up for $80 back in the day. I still have another one in much better condition with matching numbers. I almost never shoot them. I should just sell them and the ammo.

[Johnny]

I have five of them to include a scoped sniper rifle model. I have never used a clip with them. Mine always fired and never jammed up.

I also have 5 Mosins. One is a Finish M39 and the other four are standard m91/30's. All are great rifles. I haven't fired them in years.

[Bluntforce]

Got through my surplus two weeks ago, ran it fast like I mistook it for an Enfield. It shook the action screws out three turns before it shifted slightly out to let me know (the 39). The barrel band screw shook a little out also. Finns carried a massive ammo belt of 250 rounds on the assumption they may be too far away from supply or heavily engaged for a lighter load to keep them alive.
Check your screws.
i only did a maximum of a hundred a day. Got the preservative to boil out and harden, scraped it off. One day it smoked so much I wondered if you could get a bolt action’s wood to catch fire.
I almost got the stripper clip to launch itself out twice it was always between the fourth and fifth round.
One YouTuber said he thinks Czech recoils more than Russian. I noticed no difference between the mustard colored Russian cases and the dark brown Czech cases in terms of recoil. The slick texture of the Czech was more pleasing to my fingers.
I had a lot of 100 strange rounds I bought off a friend because he wanted to sell them when I was looking for another caliber. They were packaged in paper like Soviet/Russian but were a very striking reddish color both jacket and case. 16 of them failed to fire after three strikes (pulled the pin back, didn’t unlock the bolt). Half of them had a noticeable delay between trigger pull and ignition. This reminded of a supremely useless product I saw (I think it was Sportsmen’s Guide, don’t bet money on it) about twenty years ago. A titanium Mosin firing pin. Primers like those must have been the inspiration for such a product. The defective primers were disheartening for two reasons. The cartridges were beautiful, not cat turd looking Czech mini logs and not baby shit yellow Russian. The other disappointment was with sixteen out of one hundred failures anyone in some outback setting like Alaska or Canada could end up in a pile of bear shit if enough defective primers ganged up in the same mag. I only had one case of two in the same mag with a live one between them.
I shot five Czech rounds through the 38 to test the recoil theory in it and didn’t notice any difference between them and the Russian through it.
I attempted to shoot all of the beautiful treachery rounds through the 39.
I also single loaded those five and the last fifteen through the 39 and absolutely hated it. The SC puts the cartridge heads in exactly where they need to be (a bigger deal with rimmed than rimless). I also mounted the $400+ bayonet on the circa $350 rifle to see if it changed things much (a 1907 bayonet mounted on an SMLE will change impact at 100 yards by three feet, so sayeth very old NRA publications) it did to a surprising degree, reduced muzzle climb, increased recoil force and changed impact even as close as ten yards. All to be expected but all more than expected.
That’s my novel length answer to questions nobody asked (the 38’s action screws backed out a little also but was not used nearly as much) but Lisa Simpson* is my spirit guide. Believe it or don’t. I alchemically turned money into noise and denied my nephews the opportunity to dislocate their shoulders with cancer causing caustic commie crap powder because that’s the kind of schmuck I am.

* Flanders in an epic trashing called Lisa Simpson Springfield’s answer to a question nobody asked.

[Klauss]

Although it’s been several years since my dads passing with my grandfather having cancer and on hospice my uncle called me while trying to sort some of the things in my grandfather’s house.

He found an old Mosin and a tube fed 22lr with a tube fed magazine. I remember learning to shoot on the 22lr but don’t remember the Mosin.

He said both belonged to my dad but I think the Mosin might have been my grandfather’s. So looks like I’ll be inheriting a Mosin, don’t know anything about it as I haven’t seen it yet.

[Klauss]

Well we picked up the mosin over the weekend( along with 4 other rifles ).

Definitely needs cleaned, been sitting in a closet for several decades.

Can anyone give me any info on it?

[Bluntforce]

The Russian Mosin-Nagant forum went Tango Uniform in mid ‘24.

Gunboards forum and Boydhouse are probably your best bets.

The SA in the box means it was in the Finnish army’s inventory. Most likely in storage when the Finns revolted. The absolute coolest American made Mosins would be ones captured by the Bowlashits then captured by the Finns.

That hippie on Forgotten Weapons has a lot of videos about Mosins and Finnish Mosins. He put out a book about Finnish weapons last year. Go to YouTube and search Forgotten Weapons Finnish (anything) and get ready to be bored stiff or revel in his nerdery. He was once vapor locked on French shit and last year he wallowed in the sty of Finnish weapons minutiae.

His videos are probably a functional replacement of the RMN site. The Boydhouse site has a convenient table of contents by nationality and model. The Finns are the second group.