It is Now Illegal To Burn an American Flag in American Soil.

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  • aviator
    Administrator
    • Oct 2024
    • 2383

    It is Now Illegal To Burn an American Flag in American Soil.

    President Trump just signed it into law yesterday. And some asshole "Army Veteran" just went in front of the White House to burn one and got arrested. He may get a year of free room and board.
    Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.
  • Solid Snake
    Forklift certified
    • Oct 2024
    • 436

    #2
    Wasn't this settled by SCOTUS years ago? Or am I mistaken?

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    • aviator
      Administrator
      • Oct 2024
      • 2383

      #3
      Originally posted by Solid Snake
      Wasn't this settled by SCOTUS years ago? Or am I mistaken?
      The liberal court said it was a way of free speech. Go do that free speech thing at any other country and see.
      Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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      • rto
        Moderator
        • Oct 2024
        • 876

        #4
        It is Now Illegal To Burn an American Flag in American Soil.

        As it should be. I feel the same about wearing the flag as clothing, that seems disrespectful to me.

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        • ColonelKorn
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2024
          • 284

          #5
          Originally posted by aviator

          The liberal court said it was a way of free speech. Go do that free speech thing at any other country and see.
          Other countries don't have a 2nd Amendment either.
          I like that America am different

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          • Bluntforce
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2024
            • 472

            #6
            Originally posted by aviator
            President Trump just signed it into law yesterday. And some asshole "Army Veteran" just went in front of the White House to burn one and got arrested. He may get a year of free room and board.
            Hopefully Jamal will be boarding his hawg jive where the sun don’t shine.

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            • Retvet
              Moderator
              • Oct 2024
              • 597

              #7
              I wrote Sen. Byrd a letter regarding this issue years ago. It was the one and only time I actually got a response back, actually from him and not a staffer, hand signed in writing. His argument was also that it was a form of free speech. Didn't like it, but he thought it wrong to ban it as well.

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              • aviator
                Administrator
                • Oct 2024
                • 2383

                #8
                Originally posted by ColonelKorn

                Other countries don't have a 2nd Amendment either.
                I like that America am different
                True, but burning your country's flag is very disrespectful regardless of First Amendment Rights...oh wait you said Second....then it gets better.
                Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                • GimpyPaw
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2024
                  • 453

                  #9
                  It’s illegal to do a burnout on a gay pride mural painted on a public street

                  It’s hate speach to burn a rainbow flag

                  Now it’s against the law to burn an American flag.

                  I agree that all of these acts should be treated the same under the law, but I disagree with the idea that ANY of them should be illegal.

                  The right to express yourself includes the right to hurt other people’s feelings and to express dissent with your government. Free speach as long as I agree with what you’re saying isn’t free speech at all.

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                  • aviator
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2024
                    • 2383

                    #10
                    Burning your flag should be illegal, yes, and there should be a penalty for it, physical penalty, like getting beat up by a couple of rednecks who had a few beers and are out to have some fun.

                    Physical damage is not free speech. burning the flag is carrying out an action, not speaking your mind. You have the right to call me whatever you want, you don't have the right to burn my flag. SCOTUS in their liberal minds fucked that one up.
                    Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                    • GimpyPaw
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2024
                      • 453

                      #11
                      First off, and I’ve always found this part to be ironic, the prescribed method for retiring a desicrated, worn, or tattered US flag is to either respectfully cut it up or to burn it.

                      Secondly, a physical act can very much be part of free speech. Art, performance, assembly, we should not be seeking to limit how people express themselves (provided there is no danger or harm to others). Frankly, I don’t even have an issue with self-immolation as a form of political speech. Some nutcase wants to burn themselves alive and has the stones to do it, stand down wind and spark up for all I care.

                      Freedom is an uncomfortable thing.

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                      • aviator
                        Administrator
                        • Oct 2024
                        • 2383

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GimpyPaw
                        First off, and I’ve always found this part to be ironic, the prescribed method for retiring a desicrated, worn, or tattered US flag is to either respectfully cut it up or to burn it.

                        Secondly, a physical act can very much be part of free speech. Art, performance, assembly, we should not be seeking to limit how people express themselves (provided there is no danger or harm to others). Frankly, I don’t even have an issue with self-immolation as a form of political speech. Some nutcase wants to burn themselves alive and has the stones to do it, stand down wind and spark up for all I care.

                        Freedom is an uncomfortable thing.
                        Yes but as my dad used to say "Your rights end where mine start"

                        You are confusing Physical Display with Physical Action. I can display a sign calling my brother in law an asshole but if I go beat him up to show he is an asshole I can get arrested.

                        We may have been "trained" into thinking a Physical Action is an act of free speech by the ever present liberal SCOTUS in 1989 when they called it "Symbolic Speech", replacing terms in the English language at their will.

                        At any rate I'm glad DJT put a stop to it for a while at least and allow for a few assholes to get beat up.
                        Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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                        • Sanders
                          Moderator
                          • Oct 2024
                          • 1638

                          #13
                          Burn an Israeli flag in front of the White House and see what the response is. Some animals are more equal than others.

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                          • aviator
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2024
                            • 2383

                            #14
                            Furthermore: "Notwithstanding the Supreme Court’s rulings on First Amendment protections, the Court has never held that American Flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to 'fighting words' is constitutionally protected,"

                            "Burn at your own risk" shall be the new legal disclosure attached on every US flag sold.
                            Sometimes I wish I had a Harry Potter's wand and make people go up into smoke.

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