Glock replacement

[Sanders]

Only person I ever knew who accidentally shot himself, it was a Glock. Glocks have all the safety functions of a double action only revolver. Pull the trigger, and it will go bang. People carried revolvers for a long time, and nobody worried about it much.

You don't see too many DA revolvers with 4-5 lb trigger pulls, unless they are thumb cocked to shoot single action. If you are accidentally pulling the trigger on a DA revolver, you tend to feel it compared to a striker-fired auto and can check yourself. Striker fired auto goes bang and you're looking for your toes.

[GimpyPaw]

You don't see too many DA revolvers with 4-5 lb trigger pulls, unless they are thumb cocked to shoot single action. If you are accidentally pulling the trigger on a DA revolver, you tend to feel it compared to a striker-fired auto and can check yourself. Striker fired auto goes bang and you're looking for your toes.

I actually never checked the pull weights, so I just did. My P80 G17 breaks at 6.1 lbs. My S&W 627 pulls the double action at just barely under 7 lbs. Now if you're looking at a Ruger, I think those clock in at 9 to 12 lbs. I personally never wanted a gun that doubled as a grip strengthening exercise device, so I've stayed away from Ruger revolvers.

[4thIDvet]

I personally never wanted a gun that doubled as a grip strengthening exercise device, so I've stayed away from Ruger revolvers.

" Grip strengthening device" Now that is some funny but actually true. 😁

[dinkydow]

Glocks: Keep your pussy finger off the boom switch until you are lining up the shot. Period.

I like Beretta 92's.

I like P SIGs also.

I like 1911 pistols. Can't ever have to many. They are like peanuts.

i like revolvers... the Model 29 S&W (and i will find one that says, "BUY ME,") Also the model 19 Combat Masterpiece and the S&W model 629 and the S&W 586 with the 8" bbl.I

So many toys...so little time to warm them all up...

[10-32]

I identify as BI. I go both ways. Striker and hammer fired.

[graynote]

Glocks are about the safest pistol you can own. You follow the rules of gun safety you won’t have a problem. The guns can be tossed out of a helo and won’t discharge.

in fact, Glocks are much safer than 1911 S70s, CZ Shadow series guns, etc. Many, many guns aren’t drop safe and having a hammer and a manual safety don’t absolve you of good gun handling. A guy took a round from a CZ Shadow 2 last year at a match. He’s no longer with us.

If the Glock goes bang, it’s because your booger hook was on the bang switch.

Personally, the H&K P30 Light LEM is my pick.

[graynote]

Teaching pistol classes I’ve seen lots of folks forget to decock their DA/SA guns, seen 1911s go back in holsters without their safety on…

[aviator]

Glocks are about the safest pistol you can own. You follow the rules of gun safety you won’t have a problem. The guns can be tossed out of a helo and won’t discharge.

in fact, Glocks are much safer than 1911 S70s, CZ Shadow series guns, etc. Many, many guns aren’t drop safe and having a hammer and a manual safety don’t absolve you of good gun handling. A guy took a round from a CZ Shadow 2 last year at a match. He’s no longer with us.

If the Glock goes bang, it’s because your booger hook was on the bang switch.

Personally, the H&K P30 Light LEM is my pick.

I, like many here have been handling toys for 60 years or more, perhaps I'm old fashioned but to say a Glock is safer than a 1911 is a bit far fetched, Guns are like aviation, very unforgiving if you fuck up and most AD's are finger induced and guns are not to be dropped.

[aviator]

Here is a part by part movie showing how a Glock works...too many things can wear out or get dirty and stop functioning as engineers designed them to work...too complicated, the more parts involved the higher the risk of something going wrong.

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[10-32]

I used to be a Glack fan boy and still have some....until the day I shot a CZ. Currently carry a P10c and the grip angle suits me much better than the Glack. The wife has a Cajun Gunworks customized CZ P09 with upgraded trigger and Deltapoint Pro which she loves. We also have the CZ Shadow2 and that gun is amazing, in my opinion. Fantastic trigger, smooth as silk and makes me feel like George Wick

Is that John Wick's retarded brother?

[10-32]

Why yes it is, Sir.

LOL just bustin your stones. I'm actually eyeballing that Ruger RXM. I need another plastic striker fired 9 like a hole in the head but still...something about it.

[Sanders]

On Thanksgiving, my nephew showed up with a new Glock clone. I don't remember the maker, as there are so many of them out there now. It was brand new. He'd just bought it the day before and hadn't fired it, yet. He put a mag through it, then his dad put a mag through it then it was my turn to check it out. I fired 3 shots and the 4th didn't go off. I figured it probably didn't get picked up, but kept my finger off the trigger and the pistol pointed downrange out of habit in case of a hangfire. Good thing I did, because about 10 seconds later, it went off. It wasn't a hangfire round, it was a hungup striker that let go even though my finger was not on the trigger at all. After that, I cleared the pistol and handed it to my nephew and told him he should probably break it down and clean it really well as maybe there was some machining debris stuck inside the mechanism.

The next day, he brought it out and put several mags through it with no issues.

[dinkydow]

Glocks are about the safest pistol you can own. You follow the rules of gun safety you won’t have a problem. The guns can be tossed out of a helo and won’t discharge.

in fact, Glocks are much safer than 1911 S70s, CZ Shadow series guns, etc. Many, many guns aren’t drop safe and having a hammer and a manual safety don’t absolve you of good gun handling. A guy took a round from a CZ Shadow 2 last year at a match. He’s no longer with us.

If the Glock goes bang, it’s because your booger hook was on the bang switch.

Personally, the H&K P30 Light LEM is my pick.

BINGO! Pick up your raisin pie prize...at our convenience stand.

[graynote]

I, like many here have been handling toys for 60 years or more, perhaps I'm old fashioned but to say a Glock is safer than a 1911 is a bit far fetched, Guns are like aviation, very unforgiving if you fuck up and most AD's are finger induced and guns are not to be dropped.

While I love them, 1911s aren’t drop-safe. Glocks only go off if you pull the trigger. Don’t do that, there won’t be no problems.

1911s can fire from dropping, bumping too hard, and more importantly, they can fail to fire for a whole host of reasons, too.

[graynote]

Here is a part by part movie showing how a Glock works...too many things can wear out or get dirty and stop functioning as engineers designed them to work...too complicated, the more parts involved the higher the risk of something going wrong.

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Glock has fewer parts than almost any other pistol. Depending on Generation, Glocks have 34 parts.

Smith & Wesson M&Ps have 46 parts.

A 1911 has around 58/59/60 parts to function depending on who made it.

Beretta 92s have 65 parts, and a CZ75 has 67.



When the US military went to replace the 1911, the Sig and Berettas could fire twice as many rounds between failures as 1911s.

When the M9 was replaced, the Glock was more durable and reliable than any pistol the US military had ever tested. Contract went to Sig for the P320, which wasn’t as reliable; which has 52 parts for the standard model and 56 parts for the manual safety model.